This is great, thank you Andrea :) Feedback: - Danger of classic bike shedding topic! - As for order, expectations are platform specific <https://www.nngroup.com/articles/ok-cancel-or-cancel-ok/> - so often based on the developers history( apple Cancel/OK, windows does OK/Cancel) - If windows is our most common platform <https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3704951/order-of-ok-apply-cancel-buttons> we end up with (OK/Cancel/Apply/Help) - For web forms I find this page good <https://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?571> (with visual distinctions) - We have a page <https://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/data/webadmin/stores.html#remove-a-store> with a screen snap with wicket ajax debug <https://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/_images/data_stores_delete_confirm.png> !
A detail: - We do have dialog like Browse or Delete, which open a "dialog" for interaction that offer OK/Cancel experience (and WICKET AJAX DEBUG) - In some cases "Save" is distinct from "Submit", for example when editing a multi page data structure like WPS permission it is possible (common even) to loose your work but saving a "sub page" but not "submitting" the completed result. Long term these may be best represented as pop-up Dialogs like browser, short term can we change these screens to "OK/Cancel" so as not to give the impression they are saving ... My opinion: - Use "Save" (not "Submit") as we are saving a change, not submitting a form for later processing - Use "Save|Apply|Cancel" consistently when saving. - Use "OK/Cancel" consistently when not saving. - Use "Delete/Cancel" when deleting. - We can use CSS to introduce visual distinction (SAVE | APPLY | Cancel) if we wish Two offers of assistance: - I will talk to GeoCat about updating the documentation, I agree trimming the images is a good first cut, but many are out of date anyways - If we can isolate the "Save|Apply|Cancel" into a div how do you feel about having it float to a consistent location on screen during scrolling. Having to scroll to the bottom or top of the page is an awkward time waste, this is especially frustrating when used with "Apply" as you lose your spot on long forms. -- Jody Garnett On Sat, 16 May 2020 at 07:38, Andrea Aime <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > playing with the GeoServer configuration months ago I got annoyed that it > wasn't possible > to just apply a configuration change, check the results, and then go > straight to do some changes. > Or else, it was possible only in the styles page... > > So I spent a few of weekends (well, 1-2 hour a weekend really) to add an > apply button to many > configuration pages, covering most of the core ones. > > On review Niels noticed inconsistent button order, the styles page has > Apply/Submit/Cancel, > while in most of the other pages I did Submit/Apply/Cancel. > > I'm inclined to agree, the Apply/Submit/Cancel order seems like a > better option... but before > moving to do changes, I wanted confirmation, it's not a small change to do. > > Niels also noticed that there is a mix of submit and save buttons > around... changing the code > variable names to make them consistent would be a lot of work, but making > just the > user experience consistent is hopefully just a matter of changing a i18n > translation. > So, submit or save? > I'd go for "save". There is a downside of this, lots of GUI images to be > re-snapshotted, > and possibly quite a bit of text to be modified. > > In the Apply PR I had to go through that already, for some I took new > pictures, for others > I just removed the buttons from the image, they were not actually adding > much info. > It's a bit faster than re-snapshotting the GUI, especially for plugins > that one might not have handy > (in my case, it was datastores). > > If we go for the submit/save inconsistency elimination, is there anyone > that would help > with the text and GUI screenshots rework? > > Cheers > Andrea > > == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit > http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf > Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa > (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 > http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it > ------------------------------------------------------- *Con riferimento > alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - > Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni > circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali > allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i > destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per > errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le > sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended > only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from > disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 > “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information > herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by > telephone or e-mail.* > _______________________________________________ > Geoserver-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel >
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