Hello Gabriel and Jody,

I agree with most of what Gabriel says, it is mainly the same point as mine except that I think it is unrealistic to deprecate the file() method. First of all we would need to to move the resource API to geotools because SLD files are stored in the resource store, but there are still tertiary tools that require files like template and image processors. The idea is that the file created on disk is only a cache for these tertiary tools and manipulating it will have no effect.

Jody, most of the docs seem fine, except that the second blue box explanation for 'path' is confusing paths with URLs: 'file:/' URLs are not part of the resourcestore and resource rest API, and the other problems is that docs are missing any mention of the "resource:" URLs.  We must first of all distinguish between (1) resourcestore API and (2) Resources.fromURL method, I think there might be some confusion there. Then the distinction between file: and resource: urls need to be in the docs.

The (1) Resourcestore does not deal with URLs or absolute paths, only relative paths. Internally, geoserver modules load their configuration files in the resource store directly from this API.

The (2) Resources.fromURL deals with URLS and can handle both absolute file paths and resources from the resourcestore using the 'resource:' protocol prefix. This is for external use: the purpose is so that people can refer to both files on disk and resources in the resource store wherever they can specify a URL, for instance inside style files or in the parameters of a data store. File: URLs is for the entire file system, not the data directory and get 'converted' to a resource using the Files.asResource wrapping method. Resource: URLs refer to anything in the data directory or alternative resource store.

As legacy from pre-resourcestore times, geoserver supports (supported?) 'file:' URLs relative to the data directory (this is a little bit 'dodgy' since 'file:' urls are standardized and do not paths without leading slash - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_URI_scheme ). Note that the Resources.fromURL javadoc says this is deprecated and should be replaced with resource: URLs.

Kind Regards

Niels

On 05/07/2023 15:06, Jody Garnett wrote:
Hey folks, I was tired and not in position to act clearly when these gaps were noticed last year.

We can tighten up the api definition, at least with the changes made we can now notice when an absolute path was used.

I never quite managed to communicate the separation between using a file URL and File access (when DataStores wish to access local files) as distinct from use of a resource for managing configuration files.

 I suspect you both (Niels and Gabe) have met this distinction first hand - but it is hard to explain the value.

Documentation is as added here:
https://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/programming-guide/config/resource.html

This could your review and input.

Jody

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 2:34 PM Gabriel Roldan <gabriel.rol...@gmail.com> wrote:

    If "the codebase had drifted away from the intended use over time"
    I think it's even more important to stick to the contract and not
    the other way around.
    As far as I can see, there are two abstractions, ResourceStore and
    Resource, the former clearly says
    "This abstraction assumes a unix like file system, all paths are
    relative and use forward slash  {@code /} as the separator",
    the latter "Resource used for configuration storage.".
    Only by adhering to this contract, we could provide alternative
    implementations.
    So if the changes were made to accommodate "common usage" on the
    specific case of a filesystem-based ResourceStore
    implementation, it should be the other way around, to find out
    usages that don't adhere to the spec and fix them.

    Concretely, I _think_ the only place where absolute URI's would be
    requested to the ResourceStore, is where a data, not configuration,
    file, is resolved, expecting the ResourceStore to be smart and
    resolve "file:data/roads.shp" relative to the datadir, and
    "file:/data/roads.shp"
    relative to the file system.
    Now, in doing so, we're asking the ResourceStore to do what it's
    not intended to. The test case Niels mentioned used to check that
    a leading "/"
    had no meaning for the resource store (i.e. /data/roads.shp ==
    data/roads.shp), and that was changed to mean the opposite.
    So, IMHO, the responsibility of resolving files outside the
    datadir shouldn't be on ResourceStore, but on the client code.
    Something like:

    String path = ...
    File shp;
    if(Paths.isAbsolute(path))
      shp = new File(path);
    else
     shp = resourceStore.get(path).file();

    As a matter of fact, Resource.file():java.io.File should be
    deprecated and eventually removed. Resource is for config contents and
    has Resource.in():InputStream and Resource.out():OutputStream.

    It is hard enough already to adhere to lax interface contracts
    (catalog's default workspace hello) as to keep on making it more
    and more difficult.

    So what do we do? can we get to an agreement that the contract in
    the interfaces is mandatory and work from there?

    cheers,
    On Tue, 4 Jul 2023 at 17:49, Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel
    <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

        Hello Jody,

        Yes, I admit it's my own fault for missing this discussion at
        the time.

        I think it would be a shame to let the codebase further drift
        away from the intended use of the resource store. We have done
        the work to make the entirety of geoserver generic with
        respect to the implementation of the data directory and it is
        only a minimal effort to keep it this way. Even though jdbc
        store is still a community module and the Redis based
        geoserver project has been discontinued, it has been proven
        that alternative implementations for the data directory work
        and the jdbc store module is actually being used in production
        successfully.

        Now, interestingly, I have discovered that there are
        contradictions in how it works / is documented now.

        - I discovered that while 'theoryRootIsAbsolute' test is
        successful, it is actually very misleading. At least on linux,
        paths starting with '/' *still create a file relative to the
        data directory*!. The only difference is the string returned
        by the path() method. So while the path might seem absolute,
        the file you are accessing is not. So the path() method is
        misleading and in reality the leading slash is still being
        ignored (again, at least on linux).

        - Note that the javadoc of ResourceStore still says:

        This abstraction assumes a unix like file system, *all paths
        are relative*

        There it says it: all paths are relative for the
        resourcestore. Absolute paths have no meaning or function when
        it comes to the resource store.

        - I think this contradiction could be resolved in two possible
        ways:

        1) the test 'theoryIsRootSlashIsIgnored' should come back
        instead of 'theoryRootIsAbsolute'. The root slash is ignored
        and removed from the path.

        2) The resource store throws an exception when you ask for an
        absolute path.

        Either way, all absolute paths should be handled _outside of_
        the ResourceStore, for instance by calling Files.asResource().
        So problems with absolute paths in the rest service should be
        resolved in the rest service, or some other layer that is used
        by the rest service.

        Kind Regards
        Niels

        On 04/07/2023 21:59, Jody Garnett wrote:
        Hello Niels,

        The PRs for this activity contain extensive discussion.

        The fundamental issue was the handling of absolute paths
        which was done differently by different sections of code.
        Specifically we found that the REST API endpoint was allowing
        paths *//data* and */data *to both reference content in the
        data directory, rather than treating the first one as an
        absolute path. In response we tightened up the javadocs and
        added test cases including the one you mentioned.

        I agree that this goes against the goal of resource store,
        but the codebase had drifted away from the intended use over
        time.

        Now that you are present in the discussion it would be a good
        opportunity to discuss this with the parties involved.
        --
        Jody Garnett


        On Jul 3, 2023 at 2:50:02 PM, Niels Charlier
        <ni...@scitus.be> wrote:

        Hello Jody and others,

        I am having trouble understanding the changes that were made
        about 6 months ago to the ResourceStore's expected behaviour.

        In particular, in the class
        'org.geoserver.platform.resource.ResourceTheoryTest', the
        unit test 'theoryRootSlashIsIgnored' was replaced by
        'theoryRootIsAbsolute'. I cannot make sense out of this
        theory test at all.


         This seems to be entirely contradictory to the whole reason
        that the ResourceStore API was created, that is to make an
        abstraction of the /Data Directory/, so that it can be
        replaced by something else (such as jdbc store or other
        implementations that have been made). There was already
        support for absolute file paths in all circumstances by
        using "file:" URLs. This will bypass the resource store and
        call Files.asResource instead. But resource: URLs are for
        the data directory or alternative resource store only. How
        does it make sense to get absolute paths from the resource
        store?


        In order to make jdbc-config pass the tests, I will have to
        turn off this particular method. But why should the test
        even be there if the file resource store is the only one
        that could ever support it? Programmers and users will rely
        on this behaviour and support for all alternative
        implementations of ResourceStore will be broken. In this
        case we may as well do away with the API and just use the
        file system directly again.


        Kind Regards

        Niels

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