Dear Henning,
you might try if setting the expose primary key flag to false, inside the
datastore params in your app-schema mappings fixes the issue:
<Parameter>
   <name>Expose primary keys</name>
   <value>false</value>
</Parameter>
I'm not sure 100% sure it will work for your use case, but in this way
GeoServer will generate random UUID for features FID instead of using the
database primary key and if the same instance is not reused across feature
chaining should lead to the desired result (however not exposing pk will
probably cause performance degradation when querying the data).
If this does not work then I believe that code changes after a careful code
investigation are needed in order to support your use case.


Kind Regards,

Marco Volpini

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On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 9:31 AM Henning Lorenz <henning.lor...@geo.uu.se>
wrote:

> geoserver 2.21.1, Postgresql
>
> Hello,
>
> Question: How can I add randomness to App Schema idExpression while
> joining support is active? (then random() is not supported)
>
> Background:
>
>    - App Schema automatically encodes the ids based on
>    <tablename>.<primarykey>.
>    - Ids have to be unique within the output document, else the document
>    will not validate.
>
> If a mapping file repeatedly chains the same feature and there the same
> content (same line in the table, same primary key), the generated id is the
> same. (For me this happens with a mapping file that chains responsible
> party (gmd:CI_ResponsibleParty) in several places. When the same party is
> responsible more than once, the generated ids are the same and thus, the
> output document does not validate).
>
> As all data are the same in these multiple occurrences, the only solution
> I see is to add a random string/number. To concatenate random() in the
> idExpression is a solution in case joining support is deactivated. However,
> with activated joining support, it generates an error (only database
> functions are supported, as indicated in the documentation). But when I
> turn of joining support, JDBC multi values support seems to be deactivated
> as well. Thus, this is not a solution. Therefore, I need a solution for
> adding randomness while joining support is active.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help on this topic,
>
> Henning
>
> The funny thing is that the same app schema mapping with random() and
> multiple values did work and produce valid output on a now decommissioned
> server. The geoserver version was in the range 2.14-2.16, and I can't
> recall whether joining support was active. Maybe it just was a coincidence,
> or something has changed in geoserver.
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