Thanks for your words of support, if you check the latest meeting notes I
hope to make a blog post on this topic for January.

Sorry if my words were a bit harsh.

I am still seeking a good balance with respect to funding.  While we need
to be sustainable - it is best addressed with people than funds.
--
Jody Garnett


On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 5:00 PM Mike Bundock <m...@augview.net> wrote:

> hi Jody. Apologies if my comment came across as criticism. Certainly not
> intended.  I think we all agree that geoserver is fantastic and that the
> team have done an amazing job of maintaining & upgrading its capabilities.
> It is sad to hear that so little was raised last year.  Maybe that fact
> alone should be publicized and used to generate more revenue.  If each
> organisation using geoserver donated just $20 it would soon add up to a
> significant sum.
> I will revisit how to make a contribution and contact other organisations
> that I know are using Geoserver to do the same.
> regards
> mike
>
> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, 1:49 pm Jody Garnett, <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Mike,
>>
>> For a large portion of GeoServer's lifetime we had participation from
>> companies backed by investors and venture capital.
>>
>> That is no longer the case.
>>
>> GeoServer asked for sponsorship last year and recieved $1000 USD from our
>> community. And half of that was me personally providing an example so I
>> could take screen snaps of what steps are needed.
>>
>> A plugin that does not receive update when we migrate from a one version
>> of the spring-framework to another .. does not compile and cannot be
>> included in the release.
>>
>> Your point about popularity is well taken - number of downloads should
>> indicate that a developer is one of the users of a plugin. Or that folks
>> using the plugin will be in place to support development. Folks using a
>> plugin can also help test (and thus reduce ongoing maintenance effort).
>>
>> GeoServer has actually done an amazing job of keeping maintenance costs
>> low. The project has very good QA checks and test coverage allowing us to
>> keep a release cadence of one release a month.
>>
>> Maintenance costs for applications in 2023 are presently increasing. With
>> increased expectations for prompt security patches and so on. Functionality
>> such as SAML that is not along for the ride falls away.
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 1:19 PM Mike Bundock <m...@augview.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>> surely there must be a better reason for dropping the plugin, other than
>>> it did not get updated for a while.  Did it actually need an update?  If
>>> plugin download numbers are logged and no-one had actually been using it
>>> then I would understand.
>>> regards
>>> Mike
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Dec 2023 at 08:08, Alexandre Gacon <alexandre.ga...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> The saml plugin is a community plugin so it relies only on the good
>>>> willingness of the community and not on the maintainers of GeoServer. It
>>>> didn't receive update for a long time: that's why it has been archived for
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>> If you are ready to step in as a maintainer, it is possible to restore
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Alexandre
>>>>
>>>> Le mer. 20 déc. 2023 à 19:34, Parmentier, Mary <
>>>> mary.parment...@softtechconsulting.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We are trying to implement MFA by using OKTA to authenticate users. We
>>>>> started to explore the SAML plug-in for this but it is not included in the
>>>>> 2.24 release. We are hesitant to use the SAML plug-in if it will stop
>>>>> working with future upgrades.  Has anyone successfully integrated 
>>>>> Geoserver
>>>>> with Okta? I would love to hear how you did it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitzi Parmentier
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>
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