Ciao Stephen,
can you be more specific about the steps you have done? I think I am a bit
lost in the wild...


Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
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On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Stephen V. Mather <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Thanks Simone,
>
>                 That’s very helpful.  Any known limit to how large a
> pyramid can be?  I broke my data out into no more than 2500 tiles at the 0
> level, because otherwise it would fail on loading into GeoServer.
> Performance-wise though it is quite good.  It started as 13,000 tiles
> weighing in at 164GB.  Pyramids ballooned that (quite predictably) by about
> a third.
>
>                 Because I’ve retiled, overlap becomes an issue with the
> separate blocks.  Would this be best addressed with an SLD (and how would I
> write transparency and three bands…?) or should I instead set transparency
> while I (re)process with gdal?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: http://www.clemetparks.com/images/esig/cmp-ms-90x122.png]Stephen
> Mather
> Geographic Information Systems (GIS) Manager
> (216) 635-3243
>
> [email protected]
> clevelandmetroparks.com <http://www.clemetparks.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Simone
> Giannecchini
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:26 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Geoserver-users] ImagePyramid extension vs. ImageMosaic
>
>
>
> Ciao Stephen,
>
> the ImageMosaic is not the proper choice when for low resolutions it will
> have to open hundreds of files.
>
> So if you have more than 20/30 files that composes your mosaic then
> performance goes from bad to unacceptable.
>
> There is one thing to notice, imagemosaic can be used effectively in
> conjunction with formats like ecw or mrsif (or jp2) where the size of each
> file can be very big and hence you can create mosaic that are very large and
> still have good performance.
>
>
>
> The other approach is tu build up a pyramid. This time we create various
> mosaics at various resolutions levels. When the resolutions decreases the
> number of files decreases as well since usually the file size is fixed. The
> drawback I foresee most part of the time with this approach is that it is
> very good when it is really need but most part of the time, when data is
> under 10/20 gigs there is no need to go under the task of creating the
> pyramid.
>
>
>
> Long story short, you might be in the case where a pyramid is needed, since
> the size of the data is quite big.
> Regards,
> Simone Giannecchini
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Ing. Simone Giannecchini
> GeoSolutions S.A.S.
> Founder
>
> Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
> 55054  Massarosa (LU)
> Italy
>
> phone: +39 0584 962313
> fax:      +39 0584 962313
> mob:    +39 333 8128928
>
> http://www.geo-solutions.it
> http://geo-solutions.blogspot.com/
> http://www.youtube.com/user/GeoSolutionsIT
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonegiannecchini
> http://twitter.com/simogeo
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
>  On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Stephen V. Mather <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> It looks like, based on my reading, the image mosaic, unlike the pyramid
> layer is not as good at serving large overviews, as everything is
> partitioned into many tiles, but it is very good for serving the detailed
> data itself and large volumes of it.  Is this a correct assessment?
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: http://www.clemetparks.com/images/esig/cmp-ms-90x122.png]Stephen
> Mather
> Geographic Information Systems (GIS) Manager
> (216) 635-3243
>
> [email protected]
> clevelandmetroparks.com <http://www.clemetparks.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Stephen V. Mather [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 18, 2011 11:06 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Geoserver-users] ImagePyramid extension vs. ImageMosaic
>
>
>
> Looks like I originally just sent this back to Simone:
>
>
>
> Hi Simone,
>
>                 For better or for worse, our users tend to expect to use
> the data at all scales, although there is probably more I could do to
> discourage this.  As far as volume, we’re talking about the 150GB-800GB
> range, depending on the dataset.
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> * *
>
>
>
> [image: http://www.clemetparks.com/images/esig/cmp-ms-90x122.png]Stephen
> Mather
> Geographic Information Systems (GIS) Manager
> (216) 635-3243
>
> [email protected]
> clevelandmetroparks.com <http://www.clemetparks.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Simone
> Giannecchini
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 14, 2011 5:06 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Geoserver-users] ImagePyramid extension vs. ImageMosaic
>
>
>
> Ciao Stephen,
> I will tell you what is my take on this.
>
> First discriminant, you want to to show the data at all scales or just at
> the small scales ?
> Second discriminant, how much data are we talking about? Order of terabytes
> or order of (tenth of) gigabytes?
>
> Generally speaking I tend to avoid using a pyramid (files base or db based)
> and thend to prefere a mosaic; anyway it would be great a bit more about
> your use case.
>
>
> Regards,
> Simone Giannecchini
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Ing. Simone Giannecchini
> GeoSolutions S.A.S.
> Founder
>
> Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
> 55054  Massarosa (LU)
> Italy
>
> phone: +39 0584 962313
> fax:      +39 0584 962313 <%2B39%200584%20962313>
> mob:    +39 333 8128928 <%2B39%20333%208128928>
>
> http://www.geo-solutions.it
> http://geo-solutions.blogspot.com/
> http://www.youtube.com/user/GeoSolutionsIT
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/simonegiannecchini
> http://twitter.com/simogeo
>
> -------------------------------------------------------
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Stephen V. Mather <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>                 Looking at the options for serving large amounts of
> imagery, what are the performance and practical differences between
> ImagePyramid and ImageMosaic?  Is there any known ceiling to 1) number of
> images 2) total size and extent of images for either method?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: http://www.clemetparks.com/images/esig/cmp-ms-90x122.png]Stephen
> Mather
> Geographic Information Systems (GIS) Manager
> (216) 635-3243
>
> [email protected]
> clevelandmetroparks.com <http://www.clemetparks.com/>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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