Andrea, Jukka,

since I can't publish gibberish on our production server, I did some
with a local fresh 2.11.2 stable bin installation, using shapefiles
and three different native SRSs - EPSG:3035, EPSG:4326 and EPSG:3301.
All the required DATA_DIR files to rerun this are available at
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BwPIVpJhp8rHbzhUWk9VSV9FSGM.
Some chrome screenshots aswell at
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BwPIVpJhp8rHUEUyNTBvVDFya1E.

But in conclusion:

data native in EPSG:3301 (data/test/puurkaev_3301.shp)
[1] WMS 1.1.1 takes ~ 0.2 s. see img/EPSG3301_1.1.1.png in the screenshots dir
[2] WMS 1.3.0 takes ~ 4.7 s. see img/EPSG3301_1.3.0.png

data native in EPSG:3035 (data/test/puurkaev_3035.shp)
[3] WMS 1.1.1 takes ~ 0.2 s. see img/EPSG3035_1.1.1.png
[4] WMS 1.3.0 takes ~ 3.9 s. see img/EPSG3035_1.3.0.png

data native in EPSG:4326 (data/test/puurkaev_4326.shp)
[5] WMS 1.1.1 takes < 0.2 s. see img/EPSG4326_1.1.1.png
[6] WMS 1.3.0 takes < 0.2 s. see img/EPSG4326_1.3.0.png

data native in EPSG:4326 (data/test/puurkaev_4326.shp) but requested
in EPSG:3301
[7] WMS 1.1.1 takes < 0.5 s. see img/EPSG4326_to_EPSG3301_1.1.1.png
[8] WMS 1.3.0 takes < 0.5 s. see img/EPSG4326_to_EPSG3301_1.3.0.png

Request URLs aswell for the sake of making it easier to repeat the requests :)

[1] 
http://localhost:8080/geoserver/test/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=puurkaev_3301&STYLES=point&SRS=EPSG%3A3301&WIDTH=768&HEIGHT=486&BBOX=320676.1358612784%2C6349387.490053313%2C789779.5117497771%2C6646241.970107753

[2] 
http://localhost:8080/geoserver/test/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=puurkaev_3301&STYLES=point&CRS=EPSG%3A3301&WIDTH=768&HEIGHT=486&BBOX=6349387.490053313,320676.1358612784,6646241.970107753,789779.5117497771

[3] 
http://localhost:8080/geoserver/test/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=puurkaev_3035&STYLES=point&SRS=EPSG%3A3035&WIDTH=768&HEIGHT=525&BBOX=4953071.972760203%2C3888121.7958570817%2C5422175.348648702%2C4208797.93171836

[4] 
http://localhost:8080/geoserver/test/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=puurkaev_3035&STYLES=point&CRS=EPSG%3A3035&WIDTH=768&HEIGHT=525&BBOX=3888121.7958570817,4953071.972760203,4208797.93171836,5422175.348648702

[5] 
http://localhost:8080/geoserver/test/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=puurkaev_4326&STYLES=point&SRS=EPSG%3A4326&WIDTH=768&HEIGHT=330&BBOX=20.7861328125%2C56.788330078125%2C29.2236328125%2C60.413818359375

[6] 
http://localhost:8080/geoserver/test/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=puurkaev_4326&STYLES=point&CRS=EPSG%3A4326&WIDTH=768&HEIGHT=330&BBOX=56.788330078125,20.7861328125,60.413818359375,29.2236328125

[7] 
http://localhost:8080/geoserver/test/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=puurkaev_4326&STYLES=point&SRS=EPSG%3A3301&WIDTH=768&HEIGHT=486&BBOX=320676.1358612784%2C6349387.490053313%2C789779.5117497771%2C6646241.970107753

[8] 
http://localhost:8080/geoserver/test/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=puurkaev_4326&STYLES=point&CRS=EPSG%3A3301&WIDTH=768&HEIGHT=486&BBOX=6349387.490053313,320676.1358612784,6646241.970107753,789779.5117497771


All the best,
Tõnis


2017-08-25 15:21 GMT+03:00 tõnis kärdi <[email protected]>:
> Yes, it's EPSG:3301 natively aswell. I haven't tried data with any
> other SRS, but I can give it a try. Will post back.
>
> All the best,
> Tõins
>
> 2017-08-25 14:53 GMT+03:00 Andrea Aime <[email protected]>:
>> I checked the capabilities document, it seems that layer is natively in
>> 3301... can you confirm?
>> Does it happen also if the native data is in some other coordinate reference
>> system?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML)
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I tried the links and also made a simple test for making sure that
>>> Geoserver knows that EPSG:3301 is a northing-easting system. It seems to
>>> know because this request with non-flipped BBOX returns an empty map that is
>>> correct.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://gsavalik.envir.ee/geoserver/eelis/ows?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=eelis%3Akr_puurkaev&STYLES=point&CRS=EPSG%3A3301&WIDTH=1432&HEIGHT=906&BBOX=372111.0,6382027.0,738667.0,6614170.0
>>>
>>> So it feels like there is some real issue.
>>>
>>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>>
>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>> Lähettäjä: tõnis kärdi [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Lähetetty: 25. elokuuta 2017 13:49
>>> Vastaanottaja: [email protected]
>>> Aihe: [Geoserver-users] response time of WMS 1.3.0 vs WMS 1.x.x
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I came upon this just by accident but it seems that GeoServer WMS GetMap
>>> response times for WMS 1.3.0 are longer than those of WMS 1.x.
>>> If the number of features to be rendered in the response is small then the
>>> difference is not that noticable. But if for example with 20K+ point
>>> features the difference becomes noticable, e.g.
>>>
>>> WMS 1.1.1
>>> https://gsavalik.envir.ee/geoserver/eelis/ows?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=eelis%3Akr_puurkaev&STYLES=point&SRS=EPSG%3A3301&WIDTH=1432&HEIGHT=906&BBOX=372111.0,6382027.0,738667.0,6614170.0
>>> takes around 3 seconds to return
>>>
>>> WMS 1.3.0
>>> https://gsavalik.envir.ee/geoserver/eelis/ows?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=eelis%3Akr_puurkaev&STYLES=point&CRS=EPSG%3A3301&WIDTH=1432&HEIGHT=906&BBOX=6382027.0,372111.0,6614170.0,738667.0
>>> gets a timeout, but I've checked it with a longer timeout setting and it
>>> returns in 30+ seconds
>>>
>>> Catching the executed SQL from geoserver.log for either request and
>>> executing it in the database yields no significant time difference (<
>>> 50 ms)
>>>
>>> switching image/png with image/jpeg makes no difference. Also requesting
>>> for FORMAT=application/json;type=geojson (using the vector tiles plugin)
>>> results in ~ 4x response time diff for WMS 1.3.0 and 1.x.
>>>
>>> I've checked with different configurations but the issue remains the same:
>>>
>>> Geoserver 2.8.1 (war deploy), data in a PostgreSQL/PostGIS database
>>> GeoServer 2.9.1 (bin deploy), data in a SpatiaLite database GeoServer 2.11.2
>>> (bin deploy), data in a PostgreSQL/PostGIS database
>>>
>>> Just for checking that I'm not raving mad, here's sample queries for
>>> another public gs instance (I'm not affiliated with this one so I don't know
>>> about the setup :)):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://kls.pria.ee/geoserver/avk/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=avk:mesilased&STYLES=avk:mesilased&SRS=EPSG%3A3301&WIDTH=1432&HEIGHT=906&BBOX=372111.0,6382027.0,738667.0,6614170.0
>>> takes around 0.2+ seconds to return
>>>
>>> vs
>>>
>>>
>>> https://kls.pria.ee/geoserver/avk/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&TRANSPARENT=true&LAYERS=avk:mesilased&STYLES=avk:mesilased&CRS=EPSG%3A3301&WIDTH=1432&HEIGHT=906&BBOX=6382027.0,372111.0,6614170.0,738667.0
>>> takes around 1.5+ seconds to return
>>>
>>> Is there any known issue with this that I've totally missed or have I
>>> messed something up in the configuration?
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>> Tõnis
>>>
> ...

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