Okay, I changed PreparedStatements to false and now it is using ST_Simplify!

I think that should be considered a bug and I'll be happy to write it up.

I'm still interested in the question of using simplify for geometry
transformations is SLD. It seems like all the pieces are there to make it
happen. Would give map authors ultimate flexibility for cases like this.

The on the fly simp is great. How is the scale factor determined? Would it
make sense to have that be configurable?


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On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Jason Newmoyer <[email protected]
> wrote:

> My geometry column def is: geom geometry(MultiPolygon, 4326)
>
> Here's the resulting sql:
>
> SELECT encode(ST_AsBinary(ST_Force2D("geom")),'base64') as "geom" FROM
> "land_polygons" WHERE  "geom" && ST_GeomFromWKB($1, 4326)
>
> And my datastore.xml:
>
> <dataStore>
>   <id>DataStoreInfoImpl-xxxxx</id>
>   <name>osm</name>
>   <type>PostGIS (JNDI)</type>
>   <enabled>true</enabled>
>   <workspace>
>     <id>WorkspaceInfoImpl-xxxx</id>
>   </workspace>
>   <connectionParameters>
>     <entry key="preparedStatements">true</entry>
>     <entry key="Estimated extends">true</entry>
>     <entry key="fetch size">2000</entry>
>     <entry key="encode functions">false</entry>
>     <entry key="jndiReferenceName">java:comp/env/jdbc/osm</entry>
>     <entry key="Support on the fly geometry simplification">true</entry>
>     <entry key="Expose primary keys">false</entry>
>     <entry key="dbtype">postgis</entry>
>     <entry key="namespace">http://newmoyergeospatial.com</entry>
>     <entry key="Loose bbox">true</entry>
>   </connectionParameters>
>   <__default>false</__default>
> </dataStore>
>
>
>
> Jason Newmoyer
> Newmoyer Geospatial Solutions
> 843.606.0424 <(843)%20606-0424>
> [email protected]
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Andrea Aime <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> checking the code, there are two cases in which ST_Simplify is not called:
>>
>>    - If the column is geography instead of geometry (I guess at the time
>>    of writing st_simplify did not work against geography, not sure if it does
>>    today)
>>    - If the column type contains curved geometries, which ST_Simplify
>>    cannot handle, at least in the version of postgis that I tested (throws an
>>    error). I believe the ticket I opened at postgis to get a function telling
>>    me if st_simplify would work got recently closed, they decided not to fix
>>    it that way, but to linearize geometries before st_simplify instead.
>>    However, not sure if the linearization already happened, and starting with
>>    which version of postgis
>>
>> Jason, are you falling in any of these cases?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I copied the states shapefile into PostGIS and had a try with GeoServer
>>> 2.11. GetMap with a WMS client generates SQL queries like this:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 05 syyskuuta 17:46:07 DEBUG [org.geotools.jdbc] - SELECT
>>> "gid",encode(ST_AsBinary(ST_Simplify(ST_Force2D("geom"),
>>> 0.05529411764705401)),'base64') as "geom" FROM
>>>
>>> "public"."states" WHERE  ("geom" && ST_GeomFromText('POLYGON
>>> ((212.626470588235
>>>
>>> 3 22.861764705882347, 212.6264705882353 70.13823529411765,
>>> 301.3735294117647 70.
>>>
>>> 13823529411765, 301.3735294117647 22.861764705882347, 212.6264705882353
>>> 22.86176
>>>
>>> 4705882347 <(470)%20588-2347>))', 4326) OR "geom" &&
>>> ST_GeomFromText('POLYGON ((-147.3735294117647
>>>
>>> 22.861764705882347, -147.3735294117647 70.13823529411765,
>>> -58.62647058823529 70.
>>>
>>> 13823529411765, -58.62647058823529 22.861764705882347,
>>> -147.3735294117647 22.861
>>>
>>> 764705882347))', 4326))
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So Geoserver does add ST_Simplify for me. I can’t understand why it does
>>> not do that for you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Jukka Rahkonen-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Lähettäjä:* Jason Newmoyer [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> *Lähetetty:* 5. syyskuuta 2017 17:10
>>> *Vastaanottaja:* GeoServer Mailing List List <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Aihe:* [Geoserver-users] Using simplify function in SLD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My idea was to use simplify as a geometry transformation in my SLD to
>>> improve performance at certain scales where OSM data is just too heavy and
>>> all the normal tricks for performance just don't cut it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reading the function reference
>>> <http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/filter/function_reference.html#filter-function-reference>
>>> it says: "If a function is described in the Capabilities document but
>>> is not in this reference, then it might mean that the function cannot be
>>> used for filtering, or that it is new and has not been documented. Ask for
>>> details on the user mailing list."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How is the "approved" function list controlled? Is there a way to change
>>> it by configuration?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> By the way I'm using PostGIS with "on the fly simplification" enabled
>>> but still the queries do NOT use ST_Simplify. It seems like this would be a
>>> better solution. Where can I learn more about how this feature works?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jason
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jason Newmoyer
>>> Newmoyer Geospatial Solutions
>>>
>>> 843.606.0424 <(843)%20606-0424>
>>>
>>> [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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