Hi Julien,
please keep reply on list, as indicated in the list usage guidelines:
http://geoserver.org/comm/userlist-guidelines.html

About the select(*) count, indeed clients use it to support paging and
removing it will
likely break some of them. However the standard allows to return "unknown"
in the attribute
value, and GeoServer allows this configuration on a per layer basis, check
in the publishing tab:

[image: Selezione_408.png]
I'd suggest to disable count only in the tables that are so large that
counting would actually
cause a problem, to reduce downstream problems with clients.
Worst case the client can do a GetFeature with resultType=hits, and force
the return of counts,
but I doubt very many clients have this fallback behavior programmed in.

Cheers
Andrea


On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:42 PM Julien Laurenceau <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Andrea,
> Thank you for your answer.
> My problem with paging is that if I use paging of WFS2.0 with "count" and
> "startindex", I still get a "select count(*)" on the server that is very
> costly and is probably required to gives clients the number of features.
> Even if geoserver streamed the feature on his side, I think that on
> postgres side the feature are loaded first in order to be counted.
> Do you think that deactivanting the "totalFeatures" calculation would be
> an option ?
> Thanks and regards
> Julien
>
>
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> Le dim. 21 oct. 2018 à 20:43, Andrea Aime <[email protected]>
> a écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>> the WFS protocol has no way to advertise limits on the bounding box, so
>> trying to apply them would break
>> any "standard" client, only clients hand-crafted to work against our
>> service would be able to reliably extract information
>> out of it.
>>
>> The WFS protocol choice to avoid overloading the server is limiting the
>> number of features returned, and let the client
>> resort to paging if they cannot get all they want in one shot.
>> In GeoServer that setting is found under the "WFS" service configuration,
>> and normally set to a high value, like 10 millions
>> features, because the way GeoServer operaters is "streaming", meaning it
>> never loads the whole result in memory,
>> it reads a page of features, encodes them in GML and sends them out,
>> reads another page, and so on until the end.
>> Typically all you need to avoid being overwhelmed is enough database
>> connections, since they are kept open during
>> the whole output writing process.
>>
>> Since you are setting up for production, I'd suggest to also have a look
>> at these contents:
>>
>>    -
>>    
>> https://www.slideshare.net/geosolutions/geoserver-in-production-we-do-it-here-is-how-foss4g-2016
>>    - https://geoserver.geo-solutions.it/edu/en/adv_gsconfig/index.html
>>    - https://geoserver.geo-solutions.it/edu/en/enterprise/index.html
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 5:36 PM Julien Laurenceau <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I would like to protect my WFS server from overcapacity and thus I would
>>> like to be able to be able to tune the maximum "cost" of a single request.
>>> I already have a way to rate limit the number of calls so that once I'll
>>> be able to tune the maximum cost of a single request it will be easy to
>>> protect my server from overcapacity.
>>>
>>> The easiest way that I can think of would be :
>>> - to force users to define BBOX in their requests
>>> - to be able to limit a maximum BBOX area on the server.
>>>
>>> I saw that the geofence extension is able to crop the visible area to
>>> some regions, but this is not what I want.
>>> I would like everything to be visible to users, but I would like to
>>> force users to perform several requests when they would like to retrieve a
>>> lot of features with WFS.
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards
>>> Julien
>>>
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