On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 4:33 PM carlo cancellieri <
geo.ccancelli...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Disabling that flag this error disappears and the tile is loaded.*
>
> Looking at this (
> http://www.tsusiatsoftware.net/jts/javadoc/com/vividsolutions/jts/simplify/DouglasPeuckerSimplifier.html
>  )
> page I see that actually it's possible to obtain invalid geometries if
> setEnsureValid(false).
>
> Could that be the case?
>
> When do we need so aggressive simplification? May we've to expose also
> that flag or put it as default to true?
>

The simplification is meant for rendering data. "topology preserving"
simplification during rendering is so slow that you might as well not apply
it at all,
and render all the original points instead (tried, it's actually faster).
Ensuring validity is also pretty slow, it comes with a lot of extra checks
besides the one that you actually need (having at least 4 points to test
orientation).
When you are using pre-generalized, the generalization already happened
once, so it's safe to turn off the extra simplification step in the
database, we
are already close enough to the target resolution.
When not using it, a simple check can be added to the resulting geometries,
if they are polygons with less than 4 points, it means they became the
equivalent
of a line going over itself (A to B and back to A, 3 coordinates, first and
last superimposed), the geometry can be replaced with a simple variation
adding a
third point mid line, slightly above or below the A to B line (extra points
for keeping it already in the right orientation for valid MVT encoding).


> Maybe geoJson or other vectorial readers are currently supporting these
> hints so they can be affected by the same problem?
>

Possibly... not sure, JSON tile encoding is not very common, not sure if
there is anyone actually using it.
That said, I'm not sure GeoJSON requires geometries to be topologically
valid to start with, I see not mention of that in the standard.

Cheers
Andrea

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