The situation is a bit more complicated... GeoServer is based on Spring (mostly uses Servlets from the EE world), here is its compatibility matrix:
- Spring 5 (what we use) requires at least Java 8 and uses J2EE - Spring 6 requires at least Java 17 and uses JakartaEE <https://spring.io/blog/2022/11/16/spring-framework-6-0-goes-ga> So the upgrade path that we are going to have to take is to upgrade to Spring 6 (major API breakages in it) and Java 17 as the minimum, in order to get JakartaEE conformance. In order to run on Java 17 without too many warnings, we'll also have to switch from JAI to ImageN (and take over the maintenance of such a project). We just requested Java 11 as the minimum, it's going to be a while before we can embark on the next jump, which by the looks of it, will be a long and complicated process Cheers Andrea On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:37 AM Rahkonen Jukka < jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Sorry if I give misleading information, I am not so much in with > programming. > > > > That Geoserver 2.23 runs on Java 11/17 even it is using J2EE is possible > because Geoserver delivers the javax libraries in geoserver/WEB-INF/lib. > The server that is running Geoserver 2.23 must be able to run with Java 11 > or 17, and still use J2EE. Therefore Tomcat 9 can be used but Tomcat 10 > not. Some people have been able to do that with some fiddling by using a > migration tool https://github.com/apache/tomcat-jakartaee-migration, see > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/75475861/will-geoserver-run-over-tomcat-10-x. > > > > > By the Glassfish matrix that you presented it seems to be impossible to > run Geoserver 2.23 with Glassfish at the moment. Glassfish 5 requires JDK8 > so Geoserver 2.23 does not run. And Glassfish 6 requires Jakarta and > Geoserver does not support that, so no go again. The situation is the same > than with Tomcat 10. I do not know if the above mentioned migration tool > could help with Glassfish 6 as it helped with Tomcat 10. In any case such > solution is untested by the Geoserver team. > > > > The alien and baffling situation will change in the future, if not before > then at latest when Tomcat 9 is reaching the end-of-life, which may take a > few years from now. Of course sooner would be better. Using commercial > support channels https://geoserver.org/support/ is an effective way for > getting more speed if that happens to be an alternative. > > > > -Jukka Rahkonen- > > > > > > *Lähettäjä:* Mark Hammond <mark.hamm...@bto.org> > *Lähetetty:* keskiviikko 19. huhtikuuta 2023 11.15 > *Vastaanottaja:* geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net > *Aihe:* Re: [Geoserver-users] Geoserver 2.23 requirements > > > > All versions of Glassfish ship with the version of J2EE appropriate to the > level of JDK it was designed to run on. > > > > So glassfish 4 required J2EE7/JDK7 but runs on J2EE8/JDK8 > > Glassfish 5 requires J2EE8/JDK8 > > Glassfish 6 requires Jakarta 9.1/JDK11 > > > > The notion that you would have a JDK11 or later application paired with a > much earlier J2EE version is alien and baffling to me. > > > > M > > > > On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 14:59, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > You are the first to run glass fish and tell us about it :) we have all be > running with tomcat … > > > > What version of J2EE does it support? > > > > If it only supports Jakarta we are not migrated to that yet. We tried > with tomcat 10 (where it changes javax to Jakarta packages in the fly) but > it did not work out so well. > > > > Jody > > > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 2:53 AM Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I was looking at this section - > https://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/production/java.html#running-on-java-11 > > > > > *GlassFish* does not currently [support] Java 11, although the upcoming > 5.0.1 release is expected to include support for it. > > > > To be honest, I don't know of anyone running on glassfish so I can really > comment. May be that page needs updating > > > > Ian > > > > On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 10:21, Mark Hammond <mark.hamm...@bto.org> wrote: > > Colour me even more confused - this is the release notes for 2.23.0 on > geoserver.org > > > > > > Or, if you can't view images: > > > > > https://geoserver.org/announcements/2023/04/05/geoserver-2-23-0-released.html > > > > *"Java 11 Minimum* > > *With this release GeoServer no longer supports Java 8, and it is time to > upgrade to Java 11 at a minimum. Our build system tests GeoServer in with > Java 11 and Java 17 which are both long-term-support OpenJDK releases."* > > > > My existing servers are 2.15 running on JDK8 and Glassfish 4.x. > > Quite happy to upgrade to 2.23 running on JDK11 and Glassfish 6.x, or even > JDK17 and Glassfish 7.x > > Can someone advise? Because what I'm being told from the documentation, > and what I'm experiencing on the ground don't seem to marry up... > > > > Best wishes > > Mark > > > > > > On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 19:58, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mark may have been testing a newer glassfish based on Jakarta? > https://glassfish.org - it looks like version 6 does support Java 11 and > Jakarta. > > > > We have not migrated from J2EE to jakarta yet; although that is a good > task to do. If you are interested in working on that mark it would be a > welcome improvement. > > -- > > Jody Garnett > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:45 AM Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com> wrote: > > According to our manual glassfish doesn't support java 11 while GeoServer > doesn't support java 8 any longer. So you may need to work with a n older > version, which do have the fixes applied. > > > > Ian > > > > On Mon, 17 Apr 2023, 18:39 Mark Hammond, <mark.hamm...@bto.org> wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I've been asked to upgrade our deployments of Geoserver due to the > recently discovered vulnerabilities. I would have been most content to > enact the workarounds wildly offered, but people above me in the pecking > order insisted. > > > > I've set up a vanilla test box with JDK11 and Glassfish 6.2.5 and > downloaded the ready-to-eat .WAR file for Geoserver 2.23 > > > > However, upon attempting to deploy, this is the message got: > > > > remote failure: Error occurred during deployment: Exception while loading > the app : java.lang.IllegalStateException: ContainerBase.addChild: start: > org.apache.catalina.LifecycleException: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: > java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/servlet/ServletContextListener. > Please see server.log for more details. > Command deploy failed. > > > > Please could someone offer idiot-proof instructions for a lay-person to > get this deployment to work? > > > > Kindest regards, > > Mark > > _______________________________________________ > Geoserver-users mailing list > > Please make sure you read the following two resources before posting to > this list: > - Earning your support instead of buying it, but Ian Turton: > http://www.ianturton.com/talks/foss4g.html#/ > - The GeoServer user list posting guidelines: > http://geoserver.org/comm/userlist-guidelines.html > > If you want to request a feature or an improvement, also see this: > https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Successfully-requesting-and-integrating-new-features-and-improvements-in-GeoServer > > > Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users > > _______________________________________________ > Geoserver-users mailing list > > Please make sure you read the following two resources before posting to > this list: > - Earning your support instead of buying it, but Ian Turton: > http://www.ianturton.com/talks/foss4g.html#/ > - The GeoServer user list posting guidelines: > http://geoserver.org/comm/userlist-guidelines.html > > If you want to request a feature or an improvement, also see this: > https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Successfully-requesting-and-integrating-new-features-and-improvements-in-GeoServer > > > Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users > > _______________________________________________ > Geoserver-users mailing list > > Please make sure you read the following two resources before posting to > this list: > - Earning your support instead of buying it, but Ian Turton: > http://www.ianturton.com/talks/foss4g.html#/ > - The GeoServer user list posting guidelines: > http://geoserver.org/comm/userlist-guidelines.html > > If you want to request a feature or an improvement, also see this: > https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Successfully-requesting-and-integrating-new-features-and-improvements-in-GeoServer > > > Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users > > > > -- > > Ian Turton > > _______________________________________________ > Geoserver-users mailing list > > Please make sure you read the following two resources before posting to > this list: > - Earning your support instead of buying it, but Ian Turton: > http://www.ianturton.com/talks/foss4g.html#/ > - The GeoServer user list posting guidelines: > http://geoserver.org/comm/userlist-guidelines.html > > If you want to request a feature or an improvement, also see this: > https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Successfully-requesting-and-integrating-new-features-and-improvements-in-GeoServer > > > Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users > > -- > > -- > > Jody Garnett > > _______________________________________________ > Geoserver-users mailing list > > Please make sure you read the following two resources before posting to > this list: > - Earning your support instead of buying it, but Ian Turton: > http://www.ianturton.com/talks/foss4g.html#/ > - The GeoServer user list posting guidelines: > http://geoserver.org/comm/userlist-guidelines.html > > If you want to request a feature or an improvement, also see this: > https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Successfully-requesting-and-integrating-new-features-and-improvements-in-GeoServer > > > Geoserver-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-users > -- Regards, Andrea Aime == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! 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