David Adler wrote:
Please note that I am not speaking in any official capacity on behalf
of IBM.
No fear David we understand. Indeed we are more interested in making you
happy, you contribute to our project and if this matters to you it
matters to us.
IBM, and I expect most commercial software providers, is very
concerned about putting its IP portfolio at risk which is a
possibility when externally-developed software is mingled with
internally-developed software. The various open source licenses have
different comfort levels. I will need to check other concerns about
copyright and code originality.
Understood, from my standpoint please understand that I am taking steps
to address these kind of issues, and it is one of the reasons for my
participation in the geotools OSGEO incubation process.
I have a number of project ideas where GeoTools and possibly GeoServer
would be useful but don't have management commitment to an official
plan. As the open source approval process is fairly resource
intensive, I haven't pursued this yet, other than the contribution of
the DB2 support for GeoTools a year ago.
David any information you could provide me would be timely, the OSGEO
incubation process is supposed to address these kind of concerns. While
the information would be initially
useful to OSGEO the geotools codebase would benefit.
It would be interesting to know if other commercial software companies
are or are considering using GeoTools and GeoServer.
I have had plenty of under the table inquires, and Refractions is happy
to provide support contracts to anyone reading along at home that
does not want to be seen on the public email lists yet :-)
Cheers,
Jody
FWIW - "For what its worth"
David
At 09:21 AM 5/24/2006, Jody Garnett wrote:
David Adler wrote:
I would like to consider GeoTools and GeoServer for some IBM
offerings but it is very difficult to get approval for anything
other than the Apache license.
David this is good information to know, I got a proposal for you. I
am trying to complete a geotools IP check (anyone can help - please!)
and am then
moving in the direction of assigning copyright to OSGEO as part of
the incubation process. The reasons boil down to the GeoTools PMC is
not really
set up to handle such things and a desire to attract involvement from
organizations such as IBM.
If this really is an issue for you can we revisit the license issue
in a more formal capacity. I would wait until the IP review is
completed, and the current
RnD efforts have died down (everyone is having so much fun right now
- lets wait for a release).
If anyone else has sad tales of not being able to invest time and
energy into GeoTools for a non technical reason please attend a
meeting and speak up,
the GeoTools library is here to work with you, the PMC only facilitate.
Cheers,
Jody
FWIW.
Pardon?
David
At 09:21 AM 5/24/2006, Gabriel Roldán wrote:
Hi all,
I was just reading the part of the meeting I lost yesterday, and
want to make
a simple comment:
<quote>
cholmes Yeah, it's mostly a question of how much people who
build on it have
to give back.
jdeolive yeah, that is why i like making WFS and WMS
modules GPL
jdeolive and just make the interfaces that are part
of the framework LGPL
cholmes One other route we could consider going is dual
licensing - GPL, and
perhaps LGPL, Apache, or even a commercial license option to those who
contribute back.
cholmes Like people can build on top of it if they want,
they just have to
let us know so they can request a more compatible license.
jdeolive i like that actually
brent is this also something that we should take to the
list?
</quote>
So my comment is that I'm fine with whatever license we choose
(actually I'm
fine partially because of ignorance of the deep implications of
choosing one
over another), but its just that having the core LGPL and plugins
GPL would
be a great opportunity for giving back too.
For example, I'm currently doing a CSW2 implementation and I would
loved to
base it on geoserver. Client didn't wanted to make it GPL, at least
for now,
so I wasn't able of using geoserver :(
With that model I would been able of basing my project on geoserver
and keep
fighting with the client to release the service implementation as
OS later.
2c.-
Gabriel
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