Hi,

some background here that may be useful.

S-57 (version 3.x) as a data standard defines a Feature Catalogue as 
well as the encoding rules for data transfer.  There is some separation 
of concerns in that a separate standard S-52 defines symbolisation 
rules.  Its obviously not great that semantics and encoding are bundled 
and this is one thing to be fixed in the next version, to be called S-100.

S-57 will live for a long time though...

There is an experimental GML schema implementation of S-57 v3 - but it 
doesnt seem to be visible on the UKHO site anymore - will look into this..
This schema used a "hard-typing" approach. ( a buoy is a  <buoy> not a 
<thing type=buoy >some allowable subset of buoy related properties</thing> )

Note that the meta-model for S-57 is a set of soft-typed generic 
containers, a dictionary of reusable elements, and then constraint rules 
about which elements different "feature types" should have.

Another issue is that the "normative" definition is a narrative text 
document, and the process of restructuring this into a database or 
schema showed up a bunch of inconsistencies. Notwithstanding, S-57 is 
important as it represents the outcome of a formal governance process 
and is widely implemented within specialised systems.

There is an activity that the UKHO is a project partner in to look into 
feature type catalog and application schema development methodologies:
https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/twiki/bin/view/Marineweb/MOTIIVE

Please feel free to use me as the point of contact between any S-57 
implementation activity and the MarineXML process.

S-57 itself will probably require the general Feature Model ("FM" branch 
- to be 2.3 ), since geometry of features are related, re-usable objects.

Rob Atkinson

Bryce L Nordgren wrote:
> Aha, it's for Navigational/Hydrographic data. :)
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> Bryce,
> This format is quit complex and define hierarchical way of representing
> data
> of any kind.
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> Data are divided in Record list
> Each record are subdivised in Field
> Each field in SubField
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> This is for example the base format for all the IHO data representation and
> especially S57 and based on S57, ENC set. With S57 you defin a total set of
> spatial topology (based on graph approach with node, edge, faces...) and
> feature attached to this topology. This is typically the format of
> Navigational Chart (if you want to be able to display navigational or
> Hydrographic data you MUST understand the Iso8211 format.
>
> Guillaume
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>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Bryce L Nordgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Envoyé : vendredi 16 juin 2006 18:07
>> À : Guillaume Pelletier
>> Cc : geotools-devel
>> Objet : RE : Geotools GPS Features / Positioning
>>
>> Guillaume,
>>
>> Any open source software is available for potential integration, and
>> therefore good for us.  I am forwarding your email to the geotools
>> developer list so that other interested parties can contact you directly
>> or
>> via the mailing list.
>>
>> I had to lookup the abstract for ISO 8211, as it seems to be separate
>>     
> from
>   
>> the 19100 series upon which GeoTools is based.  Could you comment on how
>> you're using this library?  One of my "unsolved problems" thus far is
>> figuring out a generic means of communicating a coverage description
>>     
> which
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>> can handle both traditional and "modern" (e.g. HDF, netCDF) data formats.
>> ISO 191xx is fairly specific about how  to handle spatial data formats,
>> but
>> isn't so good at describing general purpose data formats which have been
>> "borrowed" for spatial data storage.  Is this standard/library capable of
>> describing heirarichal / matrix file formats?
>>
>> Abstract to ISO 8211, from ANSI's online store:
>> Cancels and replaces the first edition (1985). Specifies an interchange
>> format to facilitate the moving of files or parts of files containing
>>     
> data
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>> records between computer systems. Specifies: media-independent file and
>> data record descriptions for information interchange; the description of
>> data elements, vectors, arrays and hierarchies containing character
>> strings, bit strings and numeric forms; a data descriptive file; a data
>> descriptive record; three levels of complexity of file and record
>> structure; FTAM unstructured and structured document types.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bryce
>>
>> Guillaume Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on
>> 06/16/2006 08:04:36 AM:
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>>> Bryce,
>>> Thank for your answer. However in absence of response I take other
>>> engagement with OpenMap. I provide them with a full Iso8211 java lib
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> and
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>> I'm
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>>> actually work on the S57 layer. Maybe it could also interest you.
>>>       
>> Iso8211
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>>> lib is ready to test and to be integrate as preview under GNU or other
>>>       
>> Open
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>>> Source Licence.
>>> Feel free to contact me if you're interested on this subject.
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Guillaume Pelletier
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>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>> De : Bryce L Nordgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Envoyé : vendredi 26 mai 2006 19:56
>>>> À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Cc : geotools-devel
>>>> Objet : Geotools GPS Features / Positioning
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>>>>
>>>> Dear Mr. Pelletier :
>>>>
>>>> My name is Bryce Nordgren.  I'm a developer with the GeoTools
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> project.
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>> I
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>>>> see that you expressed interest in GEOT-104 via a comment last
>>>>         
>> September.
>>     
>>>> I apologize for the late response.  Some of these issues are not
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>> watched
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>>>> on
>>>> a regular basis.  The project, however, has an extremely active
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>> developer
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>>>> community.  I'd like to encourage you to join the developer's list if
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>> you
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>>>> are still interested in this or any other GeoTools related effort.
>>>> Information on geotools-devel may be found here:
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>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Bryce Nordgren
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