On 1/15/07, Vincent Schut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Simone,
>
> thanks for the eleborate answer. Sorry for being impatient.
>
> I think the sponsored developing could be a Good Thing, also because it
> allows users to put some priorities on development.
> However, I am sorry to say so but I am afraid we won't be able to
> financially support geoserver development (right now). It's not that we
> don't want to, but it's that we barely survive ourselves financially. So
> I am afraid that, no matter how much I'd like to, we currently can't.
> But don't let this stop you, I'm sure others can and probably want to
> and will, and hopefully in the future we will also be able to join.

Don't worry man, I am just trying to light up some dscussion on this
issue since it could be a good way to push forward the development. As
of your involvement, you could do this, you could provide a brief
description of what you are willing to achieve which could become one
of the test-cases to drive the development, as well as some
sample-data (which you already provided and I should already have
somehwere on my laptop :-) ). I would like to see that other people
think about this idea of development proposals (cholmes? aaime?).





>If I
> were more fluent (and felt more confident) in java I'd sponsor by
> coding, but my java skills are very basic, and geoserver is imho a
> pretty complicated project. It's true I did some java coding, and even
> used JAI, but I'm more from a python world, and my java programs are so
> to say a bit pythonic in nature :) It was JAI that got me into java, not
> java that got me into JAI. So the only support for me to offer is live
> testing of cutting edge features, which I apparently already do :)
>

That helps anyway!

> Regarding the RasterSymbolizer support: I just was under the impression
> that it was supposed to work. I have chosen geoserver as a follow up for
> mapserver only after wcs got implemented, and am not afraid to walk on
> the edge and use barely implemented stuff. I supposed the implementation
> of wcs included raster sld support.

WMS actually.. :-)

> But, do I understand correctly that Float and Short datatypes *do* have
> sld RasterSymbolizer support, independent of filetype (geotiff)? That
> would be a good enough workaround for me, I can easily convert most of
> my rasters to one of these datatypes.
>

How impatient are you? Which means, when do you need the thing working?
Give a detailed test-case and I can try to force we have in the
background to work you.
Not sure however about timing, but once we have a test-case we can see
what we can do.

> Anyways, I hope you do find some good sponsors, I think geoserver is
> definely worth it and you guys do an awesome job!
>
 I know, I know...
:-)


Thx,
Simone.


> Cheers,
> Vincent.
>
> Simone Giannecchini wrote:
> > Ciao Vincent,
> > sorry to answer with such a delay, but we are quite busy these days.
> > This email is of interest for anybody who's interested in styling
> > coverage using a WMS+SLD with RasterSymbolizer
> > Please, read below.
> >
> > On 1/9/07, Vincent Schut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I am encountering problems when trying to apply an sld with
> >> rastersymbolizer to my coverages. It's a bit hard to really find out
> >> what is wrong, but it seems styling does not like geotiffs (or vice
> >> versa). I'll try to give a summary of what I tried and hope it rings a
> >> bell somewhere...
> >>
> >> - Applying a style (like dem.sld, raster.sld, or a customized version of
> >> one of those) *does* work on the supplied gtopo30 sample raster;
> >
> > I confirm that :-).
> >
> >> - Applying a style (idem) on my custom coverage does *not* work; the
> >> raster gets rendered in grayscale, whatever I try. This raster is a
> >> single band, tiled, Int32 geotiff, no colortable;
> >> - Applying a style (idem) on a geotiff version (non-tiled, uint16, 1
> >> band, no colortable) of the gtopo30_sample (created with gdal_translate)
> >> does *not* work, neither does a baseline tiff with tfw file version;
> >> - Applying a style to a fresh copy of the gtopo30 sample dataset
> >> (created new dir with these files, created new coverageDataset, create
> >> new Coverage) *does* work;
> >>
> >> This is what I could think of to narrow down the problem, and leads me
> >> to the following conclusion: styling does not work for tiff files. I
> >> might be wrong and it sounds kind of illogical (why would it not work
> >> for tiffs, but work for gtopo30 rasters, while I suppose that the
> >> rendering chain is basically the same except for the file reader...),
> >> but I have no idea how to investigate this any further. So I hope some
> >> of the imaging/wcs guru's can shed some light on this (and fix it, I
> >> hope :)).
> >>
> >
> > <<Where we are now>>
> > Ok, here is where we are with raster symbolizer.
> >
> > Honestly, the actual support for SLD+RasterSymbolizer is quite poor.
> > It came out as a quick (real quick) hack for a live demonstration we
> > had to give back in April 2006 and it was tested only on a few
> > sources, between the others gtopo30 (data type SHORT) and arcgrid
> > (data type FLOAT). Hence no surprises it does not do his job on some
> > different data types.
> >
> > <<Where we want to go>>
> > We are putting together in the background some test-cases in order to
> > improve the RasterSymbolizer support. We aim to implement most part of
> > what's in the SLD specification, even if the minimum goal is to have
> > channel selection and color map working on most Java datatypes (int,
> > float, short. byte).
> >
> > About timing:
> > I am willing to put on this a certain amount of volunteering time
> > (well, to be honest we are already doing the preparation work in the
> > background as a volunteer effort we already have some the ColorMap SLD
> > thing pretty much working).
> >
> > I have seen various people active on the mailing list and interested
> > in this feature. So my idea/wish/suggestion is why don't we do
> > something like I have seen doing on other OS projects and we launch
> > like a sponsorship program for needs like this?
> >
> > This could be  an interesting test-case. There would be a proposal for
> > an implementation and there would people could act as sponsorship
> > giving some money, or giving some help with developing and or testing.
> > This should allow us to achieve more for the projects in a more
> > controlled fashion and hopefully in less time than having sparse
> > separate efforts.
> >
> > What do people think about this? Am I completely crazy?
> >
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Simone.
> >
> >
> >> Some additional info: using sun jdk 1.5.0-09, jai and jai-imageio from
> >> cvs (synced yesterday), geotools (2.3.x branch) from svn (yesterday),
> >> geoserver svn trunk from yesterday, deployed in tomcat-5.5.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers from a bit desparate Vincent (I /do/ need raster styling...).
> >>
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