I'm not sure to be able to attend to today IRC. I just moved from Canada to
France and still looking for a place to stay, etc.
As far as logging is concerned, internationalization is not a blocker issue. I
can localize the message before to pass it to a logging API. The difference is
that it will be formatted according the server's locale; there is no chance to
get it formatted according the client locale (where the "client" may be
somebody
using the Java Monitoring framework).
What I find a little bit more unfortunate is that common-logging API is very
minimalist. The common-logging API is strictly limited to methods like:
boolean isTraceable();
void trace(String Message, Throwable t);
There is really nothing else. With Java logging, you can control more aspects,
including (but not limited to) localization, source class name and source
method
name. I do modify the source method name very often, for the following reasons:
* Sun warns that automatic detection of source method is unreliable,
especially in a server environment, because of Hotspot optimizations.
Specifying explicitly the source method/class name is more reliable
and accurate.
* In many cases, the calling method is not the one we want to show as "source
method name". Example:
public myPublicMethod() {
// ... do some processing ...
log("My message", "myPublicMethod");
}
public anOtherPublicMethod() {
// ... do some processing ...
log("My other message", "anOtherPublicMethod");
}
private static log(String message, String sourceMethodName) {
// Log the message to some logger common to every methods
// in this class, maybe providing some additional information
// related to this class state.
}
Without the ability to set explicitly the source method name, logs would
be logged as if they were originating from the "log" method. But the "log"
method is purely a private helper method; the real originators are
"myPublicMethod" and "myOtherPublicMethod".
With common-logging, there is no way to create log records with the level of
accuracy and convenience (for the human reader) that java-logging provides. We
are sure to get lower quality log records. However I realize that I'm probably
the only one to use localization and explicit source method setting, and the
vast majority of Geotools developers seem to want common logging. If this is
the
wish of Geotools PMC, I can abandon java logging. If we want to give a last
chance to java logging, I can apply the changes proposed by Justin this week...
What peoples wish?
Martin
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