On Feb 1, 2008 7:21 PM, Martin Desruisseaux
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jody Garnett a écrit :
> > a) the api changes that are happening; is this part of the expected long
> > term GeoAPI plan? (if so it would fall outside our proposal page process)
>
> No, this views stuff (geophysics, packed, etc.) do not appear at all in 
> GeoAPI.
> They do not appears in any OGC/ISO specification I'm aware of. I don't plan to
> bring that stuff in GeoAPI since I suspect that it would be highly 
> controversial
> (it is already in GeoTools alone).
>
> This stuff exists only because I try very hard to conciliate two worlds:
>
>   - data as floating point values in geophysics space.
>   - video cards (through Java2D) which work best with
>     integer values in RGB space.

How would you classify data like GTOPO30 and GTOPO60 which are
elevation data, 16 bits unsigned where the No Data values is -9999?
Or DTED (Military Elevation Data) which are as well 16 bits unsigned,
or SRTM () which are signed integers elevations that can range from
-32767 to 32767 meters, encompassing the range of
elevation to be found on the Earth. Nodata are flagged with the value -32768.
This data cannot be visualized directly, but they would not even be
strictly "geophysics", moreover there is no specific colormap to apply
and also there is a Nodata value which is an integer and not NaN.

>
> This is controversial for good reasons, but I try very very hard to preserve 
> the
> geophysics meaning of images, otherwise the whole coverage module would become
> pointless to me (even if RGB images have a lot of values for other users, I'm
> not myself in those fields. This explain why RGB support was poor in the first
> place).
>
I think that nobody ever suggested id to remove the concept of
geophysics but rather to not base the whole coverage module on that
concept.

>
>
> > b) I noticed trunk depending on GeoAPI 2.2-SNAPSHOT; is this correct or
> > is there a GeoAPI 2.3-SNAPSHOT we should be using
>
> Yes it is correct. There is no GeoAPI 2.3 as far as I known?
>
> The pending API change in GeoAPI coverage are about replacing the old OGC 
> 01-004
> specification by ISO 19123. This is yet an other topic. The geophysics /
> photographic / packed views issues is unrelated to either OGC 01-004 and ISO 
> 19123.
>
>
> > Martin I think you are stressed out on a deadline are you not? Can I
> > help set up the proposal page for you ... it will at least let me catch
> > up on all this email.
>
> We just created the following page:
>
> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Improve+support+of+RGB+coverages
>
> but this is just a skeleton for now (we are just starting the work on wiki 
> side
> - I admit that this is a very late stage).

Better later than never :-). Anyway it would be great if you could
start to write something about what your proposal would be, I think
that wass the original purpose if this
http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOT/GeoTools+change+proposal.

Ciao,
Simone.

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