Hello Jody

I'm understanding your concern. But I would also like to emphase that we 
are talking about code written at 95% by myself, Geomatys or IRD - large 
parts were written even before GeoTools 2 started -, that we are willing 
to trim the remaining 5% using Subversion history, at that - like 
everyone else - we granted copyright to OSGeo in the good faith that 
OSGeo would listen to the wishes of those who wrote the code.

We asked for OSGeo incubation without success; this gave to Geotk a 
competitive disadvantage unrelated to the technical merits of each 
projects. We though that OSGeo could help building a community; the 
other point of view was that the community shall exist before a project 
get incubated. Apache is providing us a community, while Geotk could 
provide them code base. This looks like a win-win relationship for us. 
This can also be a win for the open source ecosystem, by increasing the 
spectrum of solutions available to the users. The impact on GeoTools is 
not necessarily bad, since projects don't have to write everything in 
the GIS world. GeoTools could delegate some services to projects who 
invested more in those areas, as you already do with JTS.

In any case a pledge you to consider not only the interest of the 
GeoTools project, but also the interest of the open source ecosystem and 
for the developers who wish to give a new live to their own work.

     Martin



Le 22/07/12 04:59, Jody Garnett a écrit :
> I am not sure how I feel about this one Martin; the presence of a 
> GeoTools fork under a more permissive license seriously effects the 
> value proposition of GeoTools. Both for those who have contributed to 
> the project under the understanding of an LGPL license  (and thus 
> expect any fixes made to the codebase to made available to "at least" 
> end users); and also with organisations we work with on both ends of 
> the license spectrum.
>
> thoughts:
> - Perhaps this will be easier if we consider things on a case-by-case 
> basis (which apparently is your preference for working with Apache?)
> - Personally I have also entertained the though of changing the 
> GeoTools license;  in part to my exposure to other license models via 
> the eclipse foundation.
>
> I cannot see the value for the GeoTools project in making GeoTools 2.6 
> (even a fork) available under a more permissive license; unless 
> GeoTools also moved to a more permissive license. I think it would put 
> the project at too much of a disadvantage.
>
> What we can do is put this on the agenda for our next GeoTools 
> meeting. Thank you for approaching us on this matter; rather then 
> proceeding ahead in isolation. I also note your shortlist of modules, 
> which will help discussion.
>
> -- 
> Jody Garnett



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