I was there (but obviously not it the right channel) :-)

I'm currently rerunning the cite-tests and then I'll push a release with
the updated GeoTools readme. I've tested the GeoServer build and it works
on windows 7 and ubuntu - Mac users are on their own :-)

I'll try to write the blog post today for people west of me to review and
hit publish first thing tomorrow (GMT).

Ian


On 18 March 2014 14:22, <[email protected]> wrote:

> GeoTools / GeoServer Meeting 2014-03-18
> =======================================
>
> Attending
> ---------
>
> Ben Caradoc-Davies
> Andrea Aime
> Jukka Rahkonen
> Jody Garnett
>
> Agenda
> ------
>
> - Previous Meeting
> - DMG status
> - WFS module: WFS 2.0 support for cascading
> - Release Day! 2.5.0 and 11.0
> - New PPIOs for WPS
> - Users mailing list review
>
> Actions:
> - JG: Get an update on mac build server, or build 2.5.0 DMG by hand
> - BCD: Ben will ask Justin to clarify WFS status on email
> - JG: Remove https repo from build (publish required artifacts onto
> geotools repo)
> - JG: Create ticket for raster dumps in log output
>
> >From Previous meeting
> ---------------------
>
> Actions:
> - (done) JG: foss4g code sprint blog post
> - JG: Manually generated 2.5-RC2 DMG
> - (done) AA: ogr module docs, will add some docs next weekend if nobody
> beats me to it (add specifics for Windows, somebody help for OSX?)
> - (done, emails from Marcus Sen) BC: Ask for the mapping files for
> "cookbook" are published somewhere
>
> DMG status
> ----------
>
> - DMGs?
> - Server died
> - Not working yet
> - Jody going to build DMG by hand
> - Move straight on to 2.5.0
>
> WFS module: WFS 2.0 support for cascading
> -----------------------------------------
>
> See discussion on email, seems to be gap between email inquires
> (requirement to use predefined query) and the needs for flexible query to
> support SLD.
>
> Q: Which WFS module is suitable? wfs or wfs-ng
> A: Wait for review by Niels
>
> Ben wanted to answer a couple questions:
> * Is there any interest/budget/commitment in complex WFS delivered
> content? (Unmerged work by Adam Brown on wfs-ng branch)
> * Any chance for co-ordination between concerns of WFS-T and WFS 2.0?
>
> Action: Ben will ask Justin to clarify WFS status on email
>
> Note: Sampo use-case is limited to WFS 2.0 Predefined query that is
> limited to dimensions (ie time or elevation).
>
> Jukka knows Sampo and can liaise.
>
> Discussion:
> - today: vector handling of filter against attributes
> - map from WMS GetMap dimension to predefined query parameters so we can
> issue a WFS 2.0 GetFeature request.
> - map from WFS 2.0 predefined query description to indicate which param is
> a dimension (and some how advertise the valid range) so we can produce
> correct WMS GetCapabilities.
>
> Implementation suggestions:
> - Suggestion: cache the resulting GML and then allow the filters to be
> performed client side without re-requesting
> - Suggestion make a new DataStore that takes a "mapping" to go between
> predefined query parameters and the WMS GetMap stuff, and just use the
> GeoTools GML parsing
> - Jukka: notes predefined query is closer in spirit to WPS than to the
> generic WFS stuff.
>
> Release Day! 2.5.0 and 11.0
> ---------------------------
>
> IanT is the man with a plan .. but since he is not here we will muddle
> along.
>
> Testing results:
> - Jody: GeoTools 11.0 README.html was incorrect, but was able to build
> locally.
> - Anyone test 2.5.0? Okay nobody here wait for feedback on mailing list.
> - DMG missing?
> - Any draft blog posts to review? Not for GeoServer. None for GeoTools
> either.
> - Importer? Will wait for direction from IanS when he is back from
> holiday. Immediate opportunity for collaboration was lost on this one due
> to delay.
>
> Thanks to IanT for volunteering.
>
> New PPIOs for WPS
> -----------------
>
> PPIO - Process Parameter Input / Output
>
> 1) KML - 5 lines of code :)
> 2) GPX - exchange format for GPS tracks
>
> Q: Any ideas for getting a common formats for WPS, WFS and WMS?
> A: Good idea - very old JIRA ticket on this one (to align GetFeatureInfo
> and GetFeature)
>
> Q: Any chance of porting PPIO to GeoTools for wps-client use?
> A: Good idea - next idea (or funding etc...)
>
> Users mailing list review from last 3 weeks
> -------------------------------------------
>
> Working with rasters is raising questions:
> * Imagemosaics 5 cases
> * GeoTIFF rendering 3 cases
> * GDAL pyramids
> * Raster SLD
> * GDAL coverages and REST
> * GDAL plugin
>
> Notes:
> - Most of these can be answered with documentation links.
> - Nobody is asking about publishing to postgis or a shapefile, raster
> questions gets way more questions
>
> Q: Could we do blog post based on the raster questions?
> A: It would be a FAQ linking to the docs
>
> Action: Jukka make a JIRA ticket out of these common questions
>
> Comparison between geoserver and mapserver user mailing lists on this one.
> GeoServer is collecting more "advanced beginners" which have a learning
> wall prepping rasters for publication.
>
> Questions about integrated GWC, probably not best served by GeoServer
> developers:
> * GWC seeding with REST
> * GWC info_format - error from GetFeatureInfo info_format, preview app is
> sending GetFeatueInfo requests. Check with user about installation,
> possible JIRA issue.
> * external wms - this sounds like something for GWC list
>
> Notes:
> - Perhaps send these questions to GWC list? Nope as we embed GWC so we
> should answer the questions.
> - GWC needs a bit more work
>
> Complex configurations and complex schemas make complex troubles:
> * Slow start with thousands of layers
> * App schema efficiency
> * Complex features and WMS
>
> Notes:
> * Kevin and Andrea is talking about thousands of layers / JDBC config
> * Ben and Rini have been answering app-schema questions
> * Parsing and caching all the schemas takes a lot of CPU and storage
> * Room for optimisation here
>
> Reminder: Check email list, keep it friendly, take part if you can, and
> provide pointers to docs when possible.
>
> General Discussion
> ------------------
>
> * Clusters WPS discussion (requires all cluster members recognise each
> others asynchronous process results)
> * Windows Jetty is very old, and we see windows users deploying this into
> production. Can we update master now to a newer (Jetty 9?). Increases size
> by a couple MB.
> * Wicket upgrade? Sizeable amount of (unfunded) work. Still have no leads
> on budget/time for this activity.
> * Jody had a question about GWC locking policy and application context
> that makes a bean for every implementation. Solution uses a delegate and
> swaps between beans based on configure.
> * Pull requests: why is Travis broken? Because it is building with Java 7
> which we don't test. And our logs get too big. Or our build goes over 50
> mins (due to slow download).
> * There are some raster dumps in the logs <-- can we kill these!
> * GeoTools mvn -Dall broken for Jody due to https repository? Can we
> publish these artifacts on geotools repository, or upgrade to newer version
> (which is available on central).
>
> Community events:
> - FOSS4G Europe in July (Bremen) - talk to Andrea if you want to help out!
> - Eclipse Developers Day Sydney (Sydney) - April 2nd.
> - Locate14 (Canberra) - April 7-9
>
>
> --
> Ben Caradoc-Davies <[email protected]>
> Software Engineer
> CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
> Australian Resources Research Centre
>
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