Hi,

Le 07/04/2015 10:49, Andrea Aime a écrit :
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Nicolas Fortin <geoto...@nettrader.fr <mailto:geoto...@nettrader.fr>> wrote:

    Hi,

    Some additional comments on Erwan's answer.

    Le 06/04/2015 09:13, Andrea Aime a écrit :
    Interesting, could you compare that with the GeoTools H2 datastore?
    GeoTools H2 datastore use blob as geometry columns and does not
    include spatial index.


The H2 store has a spatial index, r-tree, implemented as a side table, courtesy of the hatbox project:
http://hatbox.sourceforge.net/

But I don't think it has many functions, and the project has last made a release in 2011.

H2GIS supports all SFS functions and several advanced spatial analysis tools (network, noise map, constrained triangulation...). H2GIS is fully linked with H2 engine that's not the case for hatbox wich uses its own file index.

    H2GIS use the new native Geometry columns and spatial index of H2.
    Moreover H2GIS provides all SFS sql functions, geometry
    constraints and file drivers.


File drivers?
With H2GIS you can create a virtual table on a shapefile (only in read mode but spatial index is supported).

Cheers

Erwan

    Since you seem to be an expert in H2, I have a question for you.
    In GeoTools and GeoServer we use H2 in
    multiple places, but an old version of it.
    This is mostly because H2 changed the on disk format, and
    apparently did not include an automatic upgrade
    procedure for it... which is a serious problem when users are
    upgrading existing installations.
    Do you know of a way to make the upgrades transparent?
    I think you are talking about the old storage before the
    PageStore. The great issue here is the necessity of embedding two
    versions of H2, one for creating a sql dump of the database and
    the latest to execute the dump. Even if you could achieve that it
    could failed. There is a discussion about that here
    
<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#%21searchin/h2-database/migration%7Csort:date/h2-database/3TuWJfFiQdc/7TGTJB1JEmoJ>.
    As the user may loose some data if its done unnoticed; maybe it is
    more secure to update h2 in a new major version of
    geotools/geonetwork then warn about the database incompatibility.


Eh, that's a major issue, because H2 databases are not exactly in user visible positions, they are used
internally by the program, often the end users are not even aware of them.
For example, in GWC they are used to store the disk quota database, in GeoServer to store indexes for the KML superoverlays, to collect the history of requests in the monitoring module, or the
GeoServer catalog itself in the database driven catalog module.
People using the GeoServer importer have certain types of data (kml, geojson, csv) importer by
default into a H2 store if they do not ask.

Cheers
Andrea

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