You really want an automated dependency manager for that, so you can just point 
at the functionality you want, and get the needed jars assembled automatically.

If you don’t want Maven, you could take a look at the leaner Ivy, which uses 
the same definitions and repositories as Maven, but only handles the dependency 
management.
(In fairness, if you only use Maven for dependency management, it’s not bad. 
Most of its bad reputation comes from people obsessively trying to use it as 
its own programming language).

JWN

From: Peter Borissow [mailto:peter.boris...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 3. december 2015 11:59
To: Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>; teeschke <daniel.te...@web.de>
Cc: GeoTools Users <geotools-gt2-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Geotools-gt2-users] embedding GeoTools is always a pain

I can definitely sympathize with Tee's situation. In the latest release of 
geotools (14.1) there are 223 different jar files. Chances are you don't need 
all of them for your project. In fact, if you're a noob and load all the jar 
files into a project without maven you'll get all sorts of errors.

Personally, I like my projects to have as small a footprint as possible with a 
minimal set of jars/dependencies. In the case of geotools, that means removing 
as many jars as necessary. I don't use maven so I have to prune the jars 
manually.

First, I separate out all the jars into categories (raster/image jars, database 
jars, vector jars, ogc/web related jars, xml/schema, commons, etc). Then I 
start adding the jars I think I need and add more jars as needed. This is an 
time consuming process but it keeps my final deployment size to a minimum.

Again, I don't use Maven and I don't know if it would help with this process. 
However, it would definitely help folks like me if the jars could be binned in 
some way. I can draft a list of bins if the packaging folks are willing to 
entertain this idea.


Thanks,
Peter


PS. Love geotools! Thanks for everyone's hard work.

________________________________
From: Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com<mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>>
Sent: 29 November 2015 18:40
To: teeschke
Cc: GeoTools Users
Subject: Re: [Geotools-gt2-users] embedding GeoTools is always a pain

We are starting to look at replacing 
JAI<https://github.com/geotools/geotools/wiki/Replace-JAI>, and will be doing 
design and fundraising over the course of 2016. JAI is not open source so we 
are unable to place it on maven central. The second part is service provider 
interface is a pain in some environments, and the "service registry" we use 
looks to be unsupported in Java 9.
[https://avatars2.githubusercontent.com/u/1187031?v=3&s=400]<https://github.com/geotools/geotools/wiki/Replace-JAI>

Replace JAI · geotools/geotools Wiki · GitHub
geotools - Official GeoTools repository ... You can clone with HTTPS
Read more...<https://github.com/geotools/geotools/wiki/Replace-JAI>



If you have any suggestions on parties interested in the above tasks we would 
love to know.


--
Jody Garnett

On 24 November 2015 at 14:35, teeschke 
<daniel.te...@web.de<mailto:daniel.te...@web.de>> wrote:

Dear GeoTools users and developers,

after embedding GeoTools in my n-th project I am very annoyed about the
complexity and pitfalls of this process. Two Scenarios to describe the
problem:

First: I wanted to parse a KML file and try to follow the Geometry Guide on
http://docs.geotools.org/stable/userguide/library/xml/geometry.html#kml-parser
1. add boundless repository and include gt-api, gt-main and gt-epsg-hsql
because I learned my lessons from projects before
2. trying to resolve the KMLConfiguration
a) adding gt-xml and gt-geometry modules as dependencies which is not
documented but seems to be meaningful because the how-to is about this
b) adding the xsd/gt-xsd-kml module as dependencies because I stumbled into
the xsd folder and it sounds meaningful as well
--> lucky me: it was the right one
Sidenote: I needed to scroll through the boundless repository manually to
scan for this modules

Second Scenario: whenever I want to do something with grid files - the JAI
library is required but not hosted in the maven central or boundless repo.
So I must use another repository (osgeo/webda) which seems to be the last
one which is hosting the JAI library :)

At the end of the day all this searching and trying needs a lot of time, is
not a pleasure and from my point of view not state-of-the-art because all
other libraries are available at maven central and are able to manage their
own dependencies. But in case of GeoTools I always need to look into
reference projects to find out how I was getting it the last time.

What are your experience with scenarios like this? Are you adding all
modules into the pom to not run into problems I always got or is there a
how-to I missed? :)

Thanks and kind regards,
Tee




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