Functions are global, they are part of the OGC Filter subsystem. They are
not specific to a store, they end
up in the capabilities document of a WFS, they can be used in SLD no matter
what the underlying store is.
A store can only have a specific (optimized) translation of them.

Cheers
Andrea

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 5:37 PM Erwan Bocher <erwan.boc...@univ-ubs.fr>
wrote:

> Hi Andrea
> Le 16/04/2021 à 17:05, Andrea Aime a écrit :
>
> Hi Erwan,
> databases are not the only source of data. A function must be able to work
> in memory first, so that it works
> with shapefiles, elasticsearch, mongo and so on as well. Then there can be
> an optimization translating
> them down to SQL.
> There is a filter splitter slicing filters in two parts, one that can be
> encoded down into the datasources,
> and one that will run in memory as a post filter. If the datastore filter
> capabilities declare support for the
> function, it will be encoded and executed in the database, not in memory,
> regardless of whether it has
> code to be executed in memory.
> Each datastore can decide to translate the bits of filters and functions
> in a different way, based on what
> can or cannot be translated down to native filtering.
>
> Ok but to do that the function must be declared on the datastore driver no
> ?
>
> e.g if I extend Area to ST_Area, ST_AREA must be declared as Area. I think
> for PostGIS  about the  public static FilterCapabilities
> createFilterCapabilities(boolean encodeFunctions)  method ?
>
> Did I miss something ?
>
> Cheers
>
> Erwan
>
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 4:53 PM Erwan Bocher <erwan.boc...@univ-ubs.fr>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrea,
>>
>> I'm extending some filter functions  to be compliant with SFSSQL.
>>
>> What about adding this feature in the main geotools module and declare
>> those new functions in the DB FilterToSQLHelper classes ?
>>
>> If we have an external module, these functions will not be optimized in
>> SQL.
>>
>> Erwan
>>
>>
>> Le 29/12/2020 à 15:45, Andrea Aime a écrit :
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 3:55 PM Erwan Bocher <erwan.boc...@univ-ubs.fr>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is my idea : add support to SFS names in CQL (filter and
>>> expression) without breaking anything in the parser ;-)
>>>
>>
>> As long as they are handled "in memory" I have no objection, just make
>> sure the semantics is the same as the current functions, if not, create a
>> separate one.
>> What alarmed me was the possibility of blindly translating it down to
>> SQL. That should be done on a database by database basis, checking what they
>> support, and under which semantics.
>>
>> Different semantics between CQL and SQL is an annoying source of issues.
>> For example, CQL has two valued logic, but SQL has three valued logic (null
>> gets its own category).
>> There is a filter translator we created to make sure the SQL generated
>> behaves in a two-way, which caused several people to complain about
>> performance (the generated
>> queries do a number of null checks, and harder to read and optimize)
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
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