So ideally we should fix the invalid definitions, and rename the files to end with “imagen”.
If you make a PR I am willing to do a 0.9.1 relate; and Gabe offered to make a geotools release on schedule next week. - - Jody Garnett On Mon, Nov 3, 2025 at 11:12 PM Kalesse Sören <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Andrea, > > That's exactly my point. I do assume that it was not intended for these > two to coexist, but it should just work fine because there are two > different registries and the operations interfaces are different, so in > theory these two do not collide at all. That gives all users a good > "workaround" to live with until applications and libraries have succeeded > to migrate. > > And that's also exactly where my PR comes in. The three mentioned ImageN > libraries (and only those three!) contain ServiceLoader definitions that > are wrong. The register the ImageN operations at the JAI registry. That > leads to class cast exceptions (wrong interfaces). That's the point that > must definitely be fixed whatsoever. > > Now that fixed, here arises the second aspect: Right now you cannot mix > standard ImageN and ServiceLoader registration. ImageN does not support > that. It will fail to initialize if one operation had already been > registered by that other means. So you must decide: either support multiple > ways of registration in the ImageN core or decide upon one and let it go. > > Therefore my PR removes the three ServiceLoader definitions: 1) because > they were wrong and 2) because that is the least invasive fix to make > ImageN initialize correctly. The PR#119 was tested locally running > GeoServer 2.2.8.0 and another application that uses JAI and it worked just > fine. > > I hope you can agree that this is a proper fix and should be part in one > of the next releases. For us it is a show-stopper for upgrading to GT 33.x > / GS 2.28.x. > > Thanks! > Sören > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Andrea Aime <[email protected]> > Gesendet: Freitag, 31. Oktober 2025 15:25 > An: Kalesse Sören <[email protected]> > Cc: GeoTools Users <[email protected]> > Betreff: Re: [Geotools-gt2-users] GeoTools 34.0 released for Java 17 with > Eclipse ImageN processing engine > > Hi, > I second what Jody said, there was no plan to make the coexist, it's an > upgrade path. > However... I believe that a coexistence could be possible, the java > packages > are different, so by having ImageN use a different file name for the > registry files in META-INF, > from registryFile.jai to registryFile.imagen, a coexistence might be > possible, even if likely > wasteful (two separate image processing caches in memory are not the > greatest of ideas). > > A coexistence is just not in our plans, but since ImageN is not yet > available as 1.0, if DWD wants > to put the development effort to get it done, I would not be against it. > I see this applicable to the GeoServer 3.0 series. > > I would recommend switching existing software to ImageN though, we > prepared migration scripts > that should help in the endeavor. > > Regards, > > Andrea Aime > > > > > == > > > GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! > > Visit http://bit.ly/gs-services-us <http://bit.ly/gs-services-us> for > more information. > > > > == > > Ing. 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If you have received this email by mistake, please > notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail > > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2025 at 5:29 PM Kalesse Sören <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > thanks for the new release! We have noticed a problem though, that > deals with environments where GeoTools (and now ImageN) and JAI are used at > the same time. I have documented the issue at > https://github.com/eclipse-imagen/imagen/issues/118 < > https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVs5MjYyOSV1PjEtMyVqZz4zMjkzMiVwamRtYnd2cWY+NDE1YDExNTs1ZjpnNTEwZzIyZmU7NmE7O2ZmZWFgYjJnMzA0NmY1NSV3PjI0NTI6MTM0OzolcmpnPjY6VUZSV3FGMzEyMTswLjY6VUZSV3FFMzEyMTswJXFgc3c+UGxmcWZtLUhib2ZwcGZDZ3RnLWdmJWA+NjEla2dvPjM=&url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2feclipse-imagen%2fimagen%2fissues%2f118> > and there is a PR attached > https://github.com/eclipse-imagen/imagen/pull/119 < > https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVs5MjYyOSV1PjEtMyVqZz4zMjkzMiVwamRtYnd2cWY+ZmVgNDplZTRlYWY0NWUzZ2BlMjA3M2UzZTU1MGdmNjQ6Zzc1MGdnNyV3PjI0NTI6MTM0OzolcmpnPjY6VUZSV3FGMzEyMTswLjY6VUZSV3FFMzEyMTswJXFgc3c+UGxmcWZtLUhib2ZwcGZDZ3RnLWdmJWA+NjEla2dvPjM=&url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2feclipse-imagen%2fimagen%2fpull%2f119> > . > > I wonder if there's any chance the problem can be solved soon as > it currently prevents us from upgrading to GeoServer 2.28.x. > > Thanks and Best Regards > Sören > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jody Garnett <[email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]> > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2025 20:57 > An: GeoTools Users <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > Betreff: [Geotools-gt2-users] GeoTools 34.0 released for Java 17 > with Eclipse ImageN processing engine > > The GeoTools team is pleased to announce the release < > https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVE3PDg8Nyt7MD8jPStkaTA9PDc9PCt+ZGpjbHl4f2gwazk7bj5uNG8+Oj5saW5ub2s4NT5raW5paWg+bGw+bjs0OT41azw9PCt5MDw6Ozw8ODQ1OjsrfGRpMDg0QEc5bGFpPT85NDs4IDg0QEc5bGFoPT85NDs4K39ufXkwXmJof2hjI0ZsYWh+fmhNaXppI2loK24wNT0rZWlhMD0=&url=https%3a%2f%2fgeotoolsnews.blogspot.com%2f2025%2f10%2fgeotools-340-release.html> > of the latest stable version of GeoTools 34.0 < > https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVE3PDg8Nyt7MD8jPStkaTA9PDc9PCt+ZGpjbHl4f2gwbDU1azU5OWhpaT9sbG5rPTRuPmw9ND9rOWg7NGhuPDU9Oz88aWtsOit5MDw6Ozw8ODQ1OjsrfGRpMDg0QEc5bGFpPT85NDs4IDg0QEc5bGFoPT85NDs4K39ufXkwXmJof2hjI0ZsYWh+fmhNaXppI2loK24wOD8rZWlhMD0=&url=https%3a%2f%2fsourceforge.net%2fprojects%2fgeotools%2ffiles%2fGeoTools%252034%2520Releases%2f34.0%2f> > . This release is available from the repo.osgeo.org < > https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVs5MjYyOSV1PjEtMyVqZz4zMjkzMiVwamRtYnd2cWY+YGFhNzE3MmAxNDM1YmJlNjNhOzpiYTpiYjc6NGU6N2BiNTRiOjQyZiV3PjI0NTI6MTM0OzolcmpnPjY6VUZSV3FGMzEyMTswLjY6VUZSV3FFMzEyMTswJXFgc3c+UGxmcWZtLUhib2ZwcGZDZ3RnLWdmJWA+NjEla2dvPjM=&url=http%3a%2f%2frepo.osgeo.org> > < > https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVE3PDg8Nyt7MD8jPStkaTA9PDc9PCt+ZGpjbHl4f2gwbGw0Pms+O2g7NDs/aD84NT47PjloPj48O2g6PGw7OGxpbDg+aG44byt5MDw6Ozw8ODQ1OjsrfGRpMDg0QEc5bGFpPT85NDs4IDg0QEc5bGFoPT85NDs4K39ufXkwXmJof2hjI0ZsYWh+fmhNaXppI2loK24wOD8rZWlhMD0=&url=http%3a%2f%2frepo.osgeo.org> > and is made in conjunction with ImageN 0.9.0, ImageIO-Ext 2.0.0, > GeoWebCache 1.28.0, and GeoServer 2.28.0. > > This is a major update: > > * The library now requires Java 17, ending support for Java > 11 > > * Upgrade from Java Advanced Imaging Library 1.1.3 to > Eclipse ImageN 0.9.0. > > * Library now provides a maven bill-of-materials import for > both library modules and third-party-dependences making it considerably > easier for downstream projects to synchronize dependences when upgrading > GeoTools > > * For more information please see upgrade instructions < > https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVE3PDg8Nyt7MD8jPStkaTA9PDc9PCt+ZGpjbHl4f2gwNDk1bjo7P2s0bms0OTk9aTo+a287a2k8PzlvbjhuaTw9PjtoPj81NSt5MDw6Ozw8ODQ1OjsrfGRpMDg0QEc5bGFpPT85NDs4IDg0QEc5bGFoPT85NDs4K39ufXkwXmJof2hjI0ZsYWh+fmhNaXppI2loK24wOD8rZWlhMD0=&url=https%3a%2f%2fdocs.geotools.org%2fstable%2fuserguide%2fwelcome%2fupgrade.html> > in the user manual > > Thanks to Jody Garnett (GeoCat) for making this release, Gabriel > Roldan (Camptocamp) for all the build improvements, and Andrea Aime > (GeoServer) for working so hard on the Eclipse ImageN migration. > > These major library updates were undertaken as part of the > GeoServer 3 activities, and we would like to the crowdfunding sponsors > their financial support. > > _______________________________________________ > GeoTools-GT2-Users mailing list > [email protected] <mailto: > [email protected]> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-gt2-users < > https://ofcsg2dvf1.dwd.de/fmlurlsvc/?fewReq=:B:JVs5MjYyOSV1PjEtMyVqZz4zMjkzMiVwamRtYnd2cWY+Zmc0OmBnYDViNTA1NDdmMzMyNTQ6ZmIxYmcxNTJnNTMyNGJiNDU2NiV3PjI0NTI6MTM0OzolcmpnPjY6VUZSV3FGMzEyMTswLjY6VUZSV3FFMzEyMTswJXFgc3c+UGxmcWZtLUhib2ZwcGZDZ3RnLWdmJWA+NjEla2dvPjM=&url=https%3a%2f%2flists.sourceforge.net%2flists%2flistinfo%2fgeotools-gt2-users> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > GeoTools-GT2-Users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-gt2-users >
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