Vivek's background is encouraging, but the federal level is a different ball of 
wax. For (relatively static) data sets, format is trivial. Data is still the 
issue and nothing vivek or anybody at the federal level will change this--this 
is analogous to education policy in the US-the feds do little (policy and $$) 
and everything happens at the local level (curriculum and funding)

Ian White :: Urban Mapping Inc
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----- Original Message -----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
To: Joshua Lieberman <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Sean Gorman 
<[email protected]>; [email protected] 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Mon Mar 09 10:48:01 2009
Subject: Re: [Geowanking] CIO and data dot gov

Joshua Lieberman wrote:
> Amen. After all, it's almost all geographic in some aspect. Some of 
> the aspect, though, really is "rocket science", e.g. which coordinate 
> reference system is used to represent the impact zone when the rocket 
> falls...
>
> Making geospatial a mainstream aspect of government data means somehow 
> getting the constraints and affordances of geospatial representation 
> to tag along wherever it goes.

Fortunately, Vivek has shown this understanding by offering data from DC 
OCTO (and rumored that his hands were behind recovery.gov) in a variety 
for formats: CSV, GeoRSS, generic XML, ESRI Shapefile.

Similar for Recovery.gov there will be (Geo)AtomPub, RDFa, and 
Linked-open-data (sioc-project.org). Users can choose the format that is 
appropriate to their use.

The DC Data catalog is also interesting in how the data gets turned into 
a feed. They setup automatic publishing that goes from the Police 
digital field report, remove 'private' data attributes (e.g. people's 
names) and push out as feeds.

Andrew
>
> Josh
>
> On Mar 9, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Sean Gorman wrote:
>
>> It is all very encouraging.  My hope is that geospatial data does not 
>> get seperated out as its own special domain.  Specifically a 
>> situation where you have data.gov and then a seperate location for 
>> geospatial data.  In my opinion, when there is a geospatial dimension 
>> to the data it should just be another option/method to consume the 
>> data, but still be part of the main data consumption/workflow.  If we 
>> just build an enhanced "geospatial one stop" geared towards GIS 
>> professionals, and is more focused on metadata than actual data we'll 
>> be going down the wrong path again.
>>
>> best,
>> sean
>>
>> FortiusOne Inc,
>> 2200 Wilson Blvd. suite 307
>> Arlington, VA 22201
>> cell - 202-321-3914
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "P Kishor" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 10:57:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: [Geowanking] CIO and data dot gov
>>
>> Meet Vivek Kundra.
>>
>> He tweets
>> http://twitter.com/VivekKundra
>>
>> Is on wikipedia
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Kundra
>>
>> Wants to free data
>> http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/03/vivek-kundra-federal-cio-in-hi.html
>>
>> Talks about GIS on YouTube (fast forward to 1:13 mark)
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amTdg8eGoyk
>>
>> Has set up a really comprehensive (but not necessarily slick) DC-GIS 
>> web page
>> http://dcgis.dc.gov/dcgis/cwp/view,A,1192,Q,499152,octoNav,|32780|.asp
>>
>> Is now the US CIO
>> http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/05/white-house-names-first-chief-information-officer/
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> ----
>> Meet Wired's take on data dot gov
>> http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Open_Up_Government_Data


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