On 30 May 2009, at 11:56, P Kishor wrote:

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:28 PM, SteveC <[email protected]> wrote:
On 30 May 2009, at 09:21, P Kishor wrote:

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:57 PM, SteveC <[email protected]> wrote:

On 29 May 2009, at 19:43, P Kishor <[email protected]> wrote:

I will be attending the OGC Geospatial Rights Mgt. Summit to be held at MIT on June 22. I will be giving a 10 min. lightning talk on SC's
thoughts on spatial data, and also be participating in the panel
discussions. Please do send me your input on questions/concerns that
you would like to see discussed/highlighted there that I could
possibly bring up.

Has SC moved on from "everything 'should' be public domain" ?



As far as I understand, SC is for "everything that should be public
domain should be public domain," which is significantly different from
"everything should be public domain."

And who is deciding the 'should'? SC has to step away from deciding that
everything 'should' be PD.

hmmm... perhaps I didn't express my understanding clearly. I used the
term should as a response to your using should. Now I see that you
have quoted 'should,' so your query is about how one determines that
something should be in PD.

SC doesn't do any such determination. SC tries to advise, on a
non-binding basis, based on local laws.

Since scientific endeavors tend to be cross jurisdiction, it is
difficult, if not impractical, to come up with an all-encompassing
license. In the US, pure data are not copyrightable, hence CC
licenses, which are really another form of copyright, are not
applicable.

One could definitely utilize whatever mechanism is available in one's
jurisdiction. SC has no quibbles with that. However, the advise is
that if one wants one's data to be made available most freely so that
other scientists are able to use the data in their work, then
something like CC0 would be a good option.

Yes, that's the point. SC isn't doing a viral license because they feel data 'should' be in the public domain. That's all very patronising but ultimately it's a disservice to themselves because there are a lot of us who'd love to release data under something like CC-SA or CC-NC but don't want to just drop it in to the public domain. They will use other licenses. If you just go around telling everyone it 'should' be PD then, well, good luck.

Do you think that ODbL is a suitable license for geospatial data?

Yes

Does it meet your needs?

Yes

Best

Steve


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