I didn’t think it would be *that* bad. What if OSM raised a pile of $$$ from various interested parties and got their own fleet of tripped-out google/nvt/ta/immersive media style cars and drove the country and mechanical turk/offshore extracted relevant attribute data? Any idea how much it could be done for? Hell, easily under 10% of what Harris got. And it would get done a lot faster than their current schedukle
Ian White :: Urban Mapping Inc 690 Fifth Street San Francisco CA 94107 T.415.946.8170 x800 :: F.866.385.8266 :: urbanmapping.com/blog From: Mikel Maron [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 10:04 AM To: sophia parafina; Ian White Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Geowanking] 2010 census The most depressing, shameful thing I've read in a long time. Also strangely encouraging. Can someone start a shit-storm on this please? $1.3 billion?!! ________________________________ From: sophia parafina <[email protected]> To: Ian White <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:05:30 PM Subject: Re: [Geowanking] 2010 census Harris Census effort == FAIL http://blogs.zdnet.com/projectfailures/?p=660 http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?filepath=/dailyfed/0509/052009mm.htm Ethan Zuckerman's description of the device: http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2009/04/27/if-us-government-contractors-had-designed-the-iphone/ My understanding is that they are going to use paper maps, mark them up, scan and georeference them back in, then heads-up digitize the changes. (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/03/world/americas/03iht-3census.11652877.html) This is the part that irks me the most (from http://fcw.com/Articles/2008/04/07/Census-counts-on-paper-for-2010.aspx?Page=1) "Despite the problems, Census awarded Harris two bonus fees under the cost-plus contract. The company now stands to make $1.3 billion on the deal. Gutierrez said that if Census officials had not decided to revert to paper forms, Harris would have made $1.9 billion." So yeah, Census, after giving Harris $1.3 billion, is implementing what essentially amounts to http://walking-papers.org/ sophia On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Ian White <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Ok, I know this is an unnaturally practical topic, but I’ve been thinking about Census’ 2010 project relative to address verification/TIGER data. For those who don’t know, Harris Corp, Census’ long time contractor for census, is going high tech—Sprint is OEMing gear to Harris to enable remote address verification and (I think) collection of other spatial data. There are a few GAO and other reports (eg, http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06272.pdf and http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20080409144834.pdf) that are critical of Harris’ approach/capabilities. Something I couldn’t resist: check out this HOT HOT HOT phone-type thing that will be used for geocoding in the field: http://www.harris.com/images/fdca.jpg. Apparently planning was begun in 2004 so there was no iPhone on the scene. What a drag as I’m sure the app could have been developed for less than the $600m contract (which is for the entire census, not the brick alone). Who has details about TIGER for 2010? Ian White :: Urban Mapping Inc 690 Fifth Street Suite 200 :: San Francisco CA 94107 T.415.946.8170 x800 :: F.866.385.8266 :: urbanmapping.com/blog<http://urbanmapping.com/blog> _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org
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