Brent, I'm working on some of your list now, researching best methods, and such Especially the 3D stuff.
The 3D angle has been on and off again focus for me for the past few years. It seems like the planets are starting to align though with regard to having all the pieces available to build a 3D viewer in the browser (without a plugin). The device question is still a bit in the air though, since the gesture stuff has not seemed to settle down into anything solid that I can see for the long term. Some HTML5 stuff in this area though. bobb >>> Brent Fraser <[email protected]> wrote: Perhaps we're running to catch up to Google Maps/Earth? Or maybe technology has surpassed our imagination (that would be sad!) Or our users no longer challenge us to provide better solutions... On the other hand: Where's my ability to 3D in a browser (with open source)? How do I easily integrate building models with GIS in a realtime 3D environment with no performance hit? What about geospatial simulation tools? How do I capture/create GIS data with a handheld camera? And how about a low cost (<$300) GPS receiver with centimeter accuracy? Ortho-rectified video? Full GIS in a browser? DIY UAV? What happened to Augmented Reality? Virtual Reality? Gesture interfaces?.. And this is just the stuff that is starting to be worked on or talked about. So back to your original question of the quiet list: I think of a new concept -> I type keywords into Google -> search results in 10+ web sites already discussing/doing work on it... Best Regards, Brent Fraser On 1/13/2012 12:43 PM, William J. Spat wrote: Mention of this list’s quietness got me to wondering why? My feeling is that good maps and 3d location data are in the process of becoming commoditised, so there’s less about which to fantasize. I mean, three-dimensional spatial data is being built out to the point that if it is a lasting visible structure, it’s going to be on the map. And we tend to fantasize about the unknown. So what’s left about which to geowank? I suppose there’s a historical dimension – putting Paxton’s crystal palace back on the map and that kind of thing. One area that intrigues me – and probably because I know so little about it - is the mapping of non-spatial data. I mean stuff that is associated with a point or area, but is not itself three-dimensional in any meaningful sense. For example, I once read of a riff on forestry software used to predict optimum snow conditions on ski hills. So presumably inputs that were relevant to tree growth (precipitation, sunlight, slope, and so on) were mapped to conditions relevant to really good snow for sliding sports. This might be an example –and one that has been commercialised, at least in a ski-hill consultancy. What else might there be? We have had wikis of crime scenes placed on maps (the crimes generally having occurred at a location, but not having a lasting visible structure {leaving aside architectural crimes ;-)}), and there are great wikis of transient spatial activities (http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/ is a favourite of mine) What else? I’ve fantasized about maps that input to policy decisions. For example, it’s a tired (pardon the pun) saw that cyclists systematically disobey traffic rules. To which, as a cyclist, I counter that the number of infractions by motorists far exceeds those by cyclists since disregard for speed limits by motorists is endemic. Could we map those areas of excessive speed as we have live maps of congestion? Pinpoint potential profit centres for Treasury? I supposed the challenge is (as it was in the early days of this list) getting good data. For example, I read that one good argument for the establishment of marine parks came from records of large fish catches after an exclusion zone was establishe d for the moon shots at Cape Canaveral. And even if good data can be found and geocoded, it is not really ‘geo,’ so perhaps harder to manage with our systems and approaches? As smartphones get more sensors, perhaps we can get them to harvest more data? Or just tap into more silos of data that are already there, but not adequately mapped? As we have all been turned into wardrivers by Apple and their ilk? I am reminded of a short story from Peter Carey’s “Fat Man in history”. But that’s another topic for discussion…. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anselm Hook Sent: 12-Jan-12 09:20 To: S. E. Cc: geowanking Subject: Re: [Geowanking] When and Where is WhereCamp SF/Bay Area? I'm not doing it this year but Steve C say's he'll pick it up - looking forward to attending :-) a On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:00 PM, S. E. <[email protected]> wrote: I have not seen this posted and the list has been awful quiet (aside from LinkedIn requests ;) O'Reilly's Where conference is 4/2-4, so I imagine it will be 3/31-4/1 or 4/8-9, but would be great to know now for scheduling. Looking forward to it! 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