This is interesting but I would use caution towards vague spatial notions,
such as "Downtown".

There was a study by Dr. Dan Montello and colleagues on this matter:
http://geog.ucsb.edu/~montello/pubs/downtown.pdf
Basically what the behavioral experiment delivered is a kernel-density-ish
region of where "downtown" is without defining clear boundary.

On the other hand, if this opengeocoder.org could be a platform for
building spatial models (similar to experiment collection in Montello et
al, 2003) for vague spatial concepts, that'll be awesome.

Best,
Sen

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Laurence Penney <[email protected]> wrote:

> Interesting idea. Scary number of man-hours till it’s comparable with
> OSM/Nominatim or Wikipedia. Just a couple of quick notes:
>
> Some guidance about synonyms and homonyms is needed really early on. I
> don’t want to add Reading, "Reading, England", "Reading, Berkshire,
> England, UK" etc. and then worry about other Readings. Currently I cannot
> even duplicate existing bboxes to achieve this stuff. Without this it feels
> too much of a toy to spend more than 5 mins with.
>
> The worker bees deserve high-level public reassurance on the PD-ability of
> the project from MS. If suits at some point decide/discover the imagery is
> not PD after all, the project’s wrecked.
>
> Of course if people enjoy it there’ll be demand not just for arbitrary
> polygons and lines, but also tags and a renderer :-)
>
> - L
>
> On 16 Feb 2012, at 23:23, Steve Coast wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I figured this is a good group to give a peek at something I worked on
> last month:
> >
> >                http://opengeocoder.net/
> >
> > The premise is that a typical geocoder uses a large chunk of code to
> import a large database in to a large geocodable database. Then another
> large chunk of code is used to actually take a string and geocode it
> against this large imported dataset. At the end of all of this all you’re
> typically doing is showing some bbox for some string like “London” which
> the user typed in.
> >
> > What if we did away with all that?
> >
> > Therefore opengeocoder is a simple list of strings and matching bounding
> boxes. It has a trivial interface to let you add or fix existing geocodes.
> It has an API on the side to provide results to 3rd party sites. If it is
> unable to help you with a query then that string is saved and available for
> anyone to later fix.
> >
> > The major differentiators against other sites are that the IP licensing
> is clear, all bboxes are derived from imagery we have rights to, the bbox &
> string data is put in the Public Domain. It’s trivial to use. The API saves
> misses for later fixing. It’s hard to find a site that does 2 or 3 of those.
> >
> > Assuming this is interesting, there are multiple possible future
> directions. Bootstrap with some PD data, allow points as well as boxes,
> allow more complex polygons, a stronger API than just a JSON endpoint.
> >
> > Feedback welcome.
> >
> > Steve
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Sen Xu
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Department of Geography, GeoVISTA Center, 302 Walker Building
Pennsylvania State University, University Park, PA 16802
http://senxu.net
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