Hi Matt

First off, I'm a digest man. so apologies for the ATM.
I wasn't thinking of poo-pooing Google in this case, as I figured they'd buy 
whatever is available (re: DG imagery). I was thinking more of those who 
provide imagery. In my data I recognize the economic value of data (sorry, I 
will be aggregating Moscow subway data *long* before I do Flint bus routes). 
That said, Goolge aims to be an everywhere/all the time provider of media to 
enable retrieval, so it struck me as odd that high-er res imagery isn't 
available (or maybe--doesn't exist??) for Flint. There's higher res stuff for 
other non-urban areas of MI.

ian

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Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 15:42:21 -0700
From: "Matthew Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Geowanking] low res for flint, mi?
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Ian,

On 8/16/06, Ian White|Urban Mapping <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's a good case of geo-cultural neglect--one of my guys was looking at
> GE's imagery of Flint MI and the resolution is quite poor--no question some
> remote areas of China have higher resolution. Thoughts? Theories?
> Conspiracies?

Soooo.. because Google neglegted to obtain high-res photography for
Flint MI, this  indicates some sort of systematic cultural neglect or
bias? I hope this is a joke (good one!) but if it's not...

Open up Google earth. Zoom in to the whole USA.. see that nice
contiguous base image with tons of patchy sploches on top. The base
image is the low-res default and the splotches are the areas covered
by high-res imagery. Observe how the vast majority of the globe is
lacking high-res data.

Sure the big cities and populated areas are more likely to have
high-res imagery. The data's expensive and google doesn't want to
waste their money buying millions of dollars of high-res tundra,
forest and desert shots when most users just want to zoom in on their
back yard.

"Ahah" you say, "Why isn't Flint, a town of 125,000 poeple, not
represented? It must be a geo-cultural bias!". Take a look at
Connecticut.... Bridgeport, Waterbury, Danbury, Hartford (the
capital!) ... none of these sizable cities have high res photography.
While the neighboring state to the north, Massachusetts, is 100%
blanketed by high-res color images. By this logic, Google *clearly*
has a cultural bias against the good people of Connecticut and in
favor of their northerly neighbors. Yeah, either that or Google simply
had easier access to imagery in massachusetts due to their statewide
imagery program (http://www.mass.gov/mgis/new-colororthos.htm).

Still all kidding aside, I would like to know how Google decides what
imagery to obtain and what imagery to leave out. Was there some sort
of return-on-investment analysis that decided it was more important to
provide certain cities with imagery versus others?  Who knows, maybe
they really do have something against people from Flint and/or
Connecticut ;-)

-- 
Matt Perry
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http://www.perrygeo.net


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