On Dec 9, 2006, at 17:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am not sure that this is a google earth issue. It looks like someone used the Google API and built a site."panoramio.com". Maybe their API is too open. Did anyone contact GoogleEather to see if it was their site or a hack job. Or are we all going to just leap to conclusions without researching the facts. I wil contact Google Earth on Monday and Ask them if it is theirs unless someone does it earlier.

Well, actually, I have to admit, I realized after I sent this that I conflated the logo issue and the GE "geographic web" issue where, as you point out, they are different. "Geographic web" is not what leaps to mind with what GE presents as such.



Quoting Allan Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Whoops. Hit 'send' too soon!

On Dec 9, 2006, at 15:53, Allan Doyle wrote:

I guess had I opened Google Earth before I had read this, my reaction would have been one of surprise at how fairly lame and useless it is to toss up a bunch of seemingly undifferentiated points and call them a geographic web.

Then I might have picked up on the Panoramio logo issue and would have thought it to be at best an unfortunate choice. I have been through some logo designs myself and know how hard it is to not bump into someone else's ideas yet keep some kind of an evocative theme.

I think Google Earth's stance is pretty clear. They care first and foremost about getting their product out there and tend to show they have a very introverted or at least self-centered corporate culture. There may well be legions of GE marketing types who know nothing about either open standards or open source. I see this as a result of GE's genesis in the "black" world of

well, you got the picture anyway...


The sad fact is that 99% of GE users will look at this and think it's revolutionary. But we know better. It's Red Dot Fever (thanks to Schuyler for that term!)

Vote with your mouse. Turn the layer off.

        Allan


On Dec 9, 2006, at 15:08, Mike Liebhold wrote:

I clicked on google earth today, to follow my daughter & husband's journey from brazil into argentina, and found an unexpected new default view.

I don't know which is more offensive:

1, That google would add a new default selected layer called "geographic web" that is - no way - a "geographic web"

or

2. that that the prominent logo on many proprietary kml placemark pages from these "geographic web" points is so derivitive/poached from the widely recognized OSGEO logo. see panoramio.com

And it's kind of counter-intuitive to see some non-editable wikipedia pages have mysteriously been imported into google's own non-standard kml format.

If google earth actually supported standards, starting with html and georss, wfs/wms/gml I guess they could claim a "geographic web". Until then it looks like a clearly blantant appropriation for private advantage of the term "geographic web" that explicitly means open standard hypermedia, to most rational people.

check it out.

- Mike Liebhold

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