Where can I order that T-Shirt? :]

I loved the comments from Puneet, Paul, and Schuyler.

Paul wrote: "The technological curve that is putting devices capable of
easily displaying this data into the hands of consumers is also putting
devices capable of gathering the data into their hands."

Timble's got a GIS grade GPS receiver that can now collect position data
within the decimeter range if you use an external antenna. That means
GIS grade GPS is crossing a threshold that would allow it to be used for
a fair amount of "survey-grade" work. It costs about $13,000, so you
won't see it integrated into a cell phone anytime soon, but it is a sign
of what is to come.

It will be interesting to see how our professions adapt as technology
increases the precision of portable measuring tools that require little
knowledge of the art of measurement to operate.

I think the successful company won't be the company that wins a lawsuit
against OSM, but the one that figures out how to bolt quality control
and metadata on top of what OSM is doing.

"If you can't beat em, join em." Community based mapping is here to
stay. It won't be long before local governments and other small
organizations are going to look for ways to tap into this resource to
meet there own data collection needs. 

Landon

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of P Kishor
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:53 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Geowanking] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Forbes Article on Data
Collectionfor map services

or, as the saying popular on t-shirts worn by kids nowadays goes --


"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
then you win."

So, Tele Atlas has reached stage 2 as described above. Once OSM gets
sued, we will be sure that open source community mapping has
arrived... definitely a rite of passage.


On 10/13/08, Schuyler Erle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sure that the Byzantine emperor also laughed right up to the point
>  where the Turks entered the gates...
>
>  SDE
>
>
>  * On 13-Oct-2008 at 10:19AM PDT, Anselm Hook said:
>  > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>  > From: S Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > Date: Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:09 AM
>  > Subject: [OSM-talk] Forbes Article on Data Collection for map
services
>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >
>  >
>  > There is an article in Forbes about the increasing lengths data
providers
>  > are going to to collect data for mapping.
>  >
>  > Link here:
>  >
http://www.forbes.com/2008/10/10/gps-navigation-autos-tech-personal-cz_j
b_1010nav.html?feed=rss_news
>  >
>  > Quote "'I laugh when I hear that you can make a map by community
input
>  > alone,' says Tele Atlas founder De Taeye. He says that if tens of
thousands
>  > of users travel a road without complaining, then Tele Atlas can be
fairly
>  > certain that its map of the road is correct."
>  >
>  > Not sure if that's strictly true, given the quality of some of
there maps,
>  > but anyway
>  >
>  > Regards
>  >
>  > Steve
>  >
>  >
>  > _______________________________________________
>  > talk mailing list
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > --
>  > anselm 415 215 4856 http://hook.org http://makerlab.com
http://meedan.net
>
>
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