I appreciate Mike's effort to keep the list clear of extraneous traffic
and relevant to those who are on it, but I actually think that this
discussion is precisely the sort of thing that it's useful to have a
collective discussion about rather than individual messages to the people
on the "greening" committee.  And, heck, if we can't do that in the best
electronic forum that currently exists for talking about global
environmental politics issues, then the idea of substituting electronic
communication for some aspects of conferences is definitely a non-starter!

I think it's worth discussing here because I think it's about broader
issues than Mike and I are going to be looking at, and in that broadness
is relevant to the question of what it is that conferences *do*. And in
that sense, if anyone on the list attends, or considers attending, any
conferences, it's relevant more broadly than to the ISA conference.

I am second to none in my appreciation for and use of electronic
communication opportunities, and I think they have indeed enriched our
academic community and discourse. 

But I also think that there is a way in which they operate differently
than as opportunities to make your latest research available and to get
feedback on it.  It's the same reason that I think that teaching a class
collectively, with people present at the same time in the same room, is a
fundamentally different activity than teaching an online class.  When I
teach I go in with a plan about the information I want to convey.  And the
act of presenting it to a room full of people changes what I say -- I make
connections I didn't imagine I would make in the act of presenting, and
present it differently. And that's even before there is discussion -- and,
ideally (and often) that discussion, questions that build off each other
in real time, leads the conversation to a place that it would never have
otherwise gone, and leads me to think about what I'm saying in completely
different ways.  It happens because we're in the same place at the same
time.

That's just the presentation/discussion aspect of a conference.  Sure, you
could find ways to replicate that -- imperfectly (and I honestly think
that it would be imperfect) -- but that's also only part of what is
valuable about being physically present together at conferences.  Part of
the reason I think gep-ed works so well is that some of us know others of
us -- there's a core of common experience at its base.  And that
experience expands outwards.  But having the hallway discussions, the
dinners out, the fortuitous connections that happen at a conference when
you run into someone whose electronic site you wouldn't have thought to go
visit if we were just talking about an electronic conference, the grad
student you happen to be able to hook up for coffee with the person whose
work she should know when you see them both in the book room, is what
makes conferences worthwhile for me. 

I agree that as environmentalists we need to think seriously about how to
live more sustainably in our world.  And conferences are a part of that,
and air travel is problematic. But they're one small aspect of what we do
in our daily lives, and if you haven't taken steps that are just as
drastic to shift the fundamental way we interact with the world (do you
take the kids to visit their grandparents?  Wouldn't skype be just as
good?) I'm not convinced that doing away with conference travel is
necessarily the first place I'd start.

Beth (who might now be impeached from the conference greening committee!)

Elizabeth R. DeSombre
Wellesley College

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