Hi folks, as always your rapid response has been extremely helpful. Here's a
compilation of answers to my query. Just as an aside, I'm trying to
incorporate the evaluation of sources into most of my courses and I'm hoping
that something controversial like this will add to our conversation on
newspapers/journalists as well as our discussions on strategy in the
negotiation of international environmental agreements.

Thanks much,
dgwebster

Hi,

similar accounts have been popping up all over the place, and it's unlikely
that Mark Lynas would be lying.

Some sources have gone beyond that, i.e. this report by the German Marshall
Fund:

http://www.gmfus.org/publications/article.cfm?id=867

According to them (and a few other sources I've read), these Chinese were
probably also responsible for leaking the so-called 'Danish text' in the
first few days of the conference. All this is, of course, based on informal
sources, hence impossible to prove beyond doubt.

Best,

Hannes
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>  Can anyone confirm or deny the allegations in this report? I'm thinking
> of using it in one of my classes, so any supporting/denying evidence
> would be much appreciated.
>
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/22/copenhagen-climate-change-mark-lynas
>
> thanks,
> dgwebster
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Without commenting on the accuracy of his account, some of the criticism
I've heard of the author is the multiple roles he is playing and mixing
roles of government delegate, advocate, and journalist.  Lynas is an advisor
to the Maldives and was in the room as a member of their delegation.  It
raises interesting questions about legitimate voice (Small Island States)
and who is speaking for them (parallel to follow, or get out of the way
admonition to the US that got all the play in Bali said
by American born spokesman for Papau New Guinea Kevin Conrad).
Related to the substance of the argument, Cleo Paskal and Scott Savit have
an interesting geopolitical take to explain the negotiation dynamics that
places a heavy emphasis on Chinese and Indian motivations and strategies -
http://newsecuritybeat.blogspot.com/2010/01/guest-contributors-cleo-paskal-and.html

Best, Geof

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Hi,

These press reports offer alternative explanations for what happened in
Copenhagen, and could balance Lynas’ view of what happened:

*Blame Denmark, not China, for Copenhagen failure*

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/dec/28/copenhagen-denmark-china[Accessed
10 February 2010]

Martin Khor <http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/martin-khor>

guardian.co.uk <http://www.guardian.co.uk/>, Monday 28 December 2009 12.11
GMT



*China alleges diplomatic snub at Copenhagen summit*

The Herald (Monterey County)

http://www.montereyherald.com/news/ci_14672589?nclick_check=1

The Associated Press

Posted: 03/13/2010 08:02:44 PM PST

Updated: 03/13/2010 10:02:57 PM PST




I was forwarded your request on commenting on Lynas's article on Copenhegen.
Here is an article I wrote for The Chinabeat, a scholarly blog on China,
which might be helpful. In addition, the Chinese premire reiterated
recently that he was not invited to the meetings and still waiting for an
explanation.
http://www.thechinabeat.org/?p=1298
best
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Department of Earth Science and Geography
Vassar College
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Fax: 845-437-7577
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On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 2:09 PM, DG Webster <[email protected]> wrote:

> Can anyone confirm or deny the allegations in this report? I'm thinking of
> using it in one of my classes, so any supporting/denying evidence would be
> much appreciated.
>
>
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/22/copenhagen-climate-change-mark-lynas
>
> thanks,
> dgwebster
>
> --
> D.G. Webster
> Assistant Professor
> Environmental Studies Program
> Dartmouth College
> 6182 Steele Hall
> Hanover, NH 03755
> phone: 603-646-0213
> http://www.dartmouth.edu/~envs/faculty/webster.html<http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Eenvs/faculty/webster.html>
>
>
>
> Hi DG,

South Center's Martin Khor has a totally different view:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cif-green/2009/dec/28/copenhagen-denmark-china
.

I find Benito Muller's analysis useful:
http://www.oxfordenergy.org/pdfs/EV49.pdf.

Tapani

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On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:09 PM, DG Webster <[email protected]> wrote:

> - Show quoted text -
> Can anyone confirm or deny the allegations in this report? I'm thinking of
> using it in one of my classes, so any supporting/denying evidence would be
> much appreciated.
>
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/22/copenhagen-climate-change-mark-lynas
>
> thanks,
> dgwebster
>
> --
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> Assistant Professor
> Environmental Studies Program
> Dartmouth College
> 6182 Steele Hall
> Hanover, NH 03755
> phone: 603-646-0213
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and have also a look at this:
http://www.gmfus.org/publications/article.cfm?id=867. I start reading it
right now.



I was in Copenhagen as part of the delegation of Tuvalu and you may be
interested in an interview I did with the Worldwatch Institute <
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/6360>
<http://www.worldwatch.org/node/6360>which gives a brief response to
the Guardian Article. Apologies for self
promotion,
I am also a PhD scholar and part-time lecturer at the Australian National
University which may explain why I am on the gep-ed list.
More than happy to discuss this further with anyone who is interested.
regards
Ian Fry


While I think this is interesting speculation, I’m not sure I buy it. In the
end, India has made it clear that it wasn’t intending to commit itself to
binding mandates in a post-Kyoto regime, and the intensity target that it
established was substantially lower than that of China. At the end of the
day, I’m not sure that the machinations of China or the U.S. really mattered
in terms of the positions that India held in Copenhagen, and if anything,
it’s opposition to a strong verification mechanism was stronger than
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