On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 05:57 AM, Alex Blewitt wrote:

All that sounds reasonable and I fully agree with you. However, as the
project is still in early stages I'd like to emphasize the fact that J2EE
developers may want to deploy their own MBeans (doing things like flushing
a cache) also at runtime. This possibility is without doubt been forgetten
while WebLogic Server was coded. Even BEA WLS developers cannot supply one
with any reasonable ways to deploy your own standard MBeans which do not
have anything to do with WLS itself.

AFAIK the J2EE spec doesn't say anything about being able to put your own MBean into a server. However, an MBean container for just this purpose sounds like an excellent idea.

There are rumors of a user loadable JMX services JSR forming.

Note that I don't believe the server itself needs to be an MBean container (in much the same way that the whole isn't a web container or ejb container) but it seems reasonable to assume that at some future point the J2EE spec may create the concept of an MBean container.

I agree that the standard component model (the component model is not the server) does not have to be JMX, but it seems like an extreme waste of effort to create a shadow JMX object for every component in the server, when we can just have them be JMX components.


-dain

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