Just to be clear in case any ObjectWeb folks don't know. Apache software cannot import any *GPL code since its a viral licence. So on a project like Apache Geronimo we cannot import any ObjectWeb code - hence we can't use ASM.

However if Geronimo links to the JMS API (which we have an ASF/BSD version of it) then a user could deploy JORAM inside Geronimo. Though due to the LGPL licence Apache couldn't bundle JORAM inside it and host it at Apache - though others could if they wished. e.g. ObjectWeb could host a deployment of Geronimo with LGPL stuff inside it.

If any ObjectWeb projects were available under a BSD style licence then Apache projects could happily use them directly & import the code (e.g. ASM).


On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 01:36 pm, Daniel S. Haischt wrote:

hello,

is it up to a particular ObjectWeb software project team to
decide whether they want to re-release their software under
a new or dual license or will the ObjectWeb group work on
a strategy on how it would be possible to 'enabling its (ASF's)
projects to use some OW code'?

i for instance am interested in the JORAM JMS server [1] because
that project implements the JMS v1.1 API and because it now ships
with that nifty kJORAM J2ME library which enables people not to rely
on the commercial iBuss//Mobile software [2].

just out of curiosity - why was the JORAM project moved from
a CPL license to LGPL?

regards

daniel s. haischt
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references:

[1]: http://joram.objectweb.org/
[2]: http://www.softwired.ch/products/mobile/mobile.html

Jeff Mesnil wrote:
(given the subject, I crosspost to ObjectWeb architecture mailing list)
Daniel S. Haischt wrote:
James Strachan wrote:



Just to be clear - we cannot touch any LGPL code at Apache so that rules out ASM for now.



yes, that was my distinct understanding!

i just wanted to explain that i do not think that the
ObjectWeb group will release ASM under a BSD kinda
license.
There have been some talks within ObjectWeb community to see
how we (the OW community) can collaborate more with Apache and Geronimo.
License is one of the main issues what we have to solve but I do believe
that we can find a good solution for both Apache and ObjectWeb.
After all, lots of OW projects already use some Apache code.
Why not thank Apache back by enabling its projects to use some OW code?
ObjectWeb and Apache have some complementary projects and I personally
think that both community can benefit from better cooperation.
ASM would be a good start.
So the licensing issue is open but OW community is carefully
considering it.
jeff



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