This one time, at band camp, James Strachan said: JS> JS>On 4 Nov 2003, at 17:08, Bruce Snyder wrote: JS>> This one time, at band camp, James Strachan said: JS>> JS>> JS>On 4 Nov 2003, at 16:22, Noel J. Bergman wrote: JS>> JS>>> I'd rather explore JMX, I've been looking at JBOSS 4 and its JMX JS>> JS>>> architecture seems to describe what I'd like to see James have. JS>> JS>> JS>> JS>> JMX and JMS don't serve the same purposes. JMS *might* (and I JS>> stress JS>> JS>> that JS>> JS>> it is only a possibility, and not one that I'm overly convinced JS>> about) JS>> JS>> provide a spool implementation. JS>> JS>> JS>> JS>>> I'm certainly not convinced that JMS is really the best JS>> approach. It JS>> JS>>> would JS>> JS>>> be sadly ironic if we end up with James performance suffering JS>> because JS>> JS>>> of JS>> JS>>> JMS queue issues. JS>> JS>> Unless there's a damn good reason for it (and it's entirely possible JS>> that JS>> I'm missing something) I disagree that JMS should be used from intra-VM JS>> messaging between threads. JS> JS>I never said that JMS *should* be used for intra-VM messaging between JS>threads! :)
I understand, James, and I'm not saying that you did say this. I'm responding to Noel's mention of Somnifugi. My apologies if I implied this. JS>> AFAIK, the intent of JMS is inter-VM messaging JS>> for purposes of decoupling. Please correct me if my understanding JS>> is wrong. JS> JS>Absolutely. This thread started with Noel saying he wanted to use JMS - JS>with the assumption being that distribution was involved. If all you JS>need is an in-JVM queue then use a Vector :) Agreed. JS>> JMX is another issue entirely. JMX is for managability of components. JS>> It's JS>> got nothing to do with messaging. JS> JS>Agreed. JS> JS>Though there's now a remoting part to JMX. So you could use JMS JS>underneath the covers of JMX remoting - just to muddy the waters some JS>more :). I really know nothing about the remoting capabilities yet. JS>> JGroups is out of the question for Geronimo because of license. It's JS>> LGPL. JS> JS> JS>There's a BSD abstraction wrapper being developed right now, so soon JS>we'll be able to use JGroups JS> JS>https://jcluster.dev.java.net/ Interesting. So how do you know what this is besides 'Clustering for Java?' I notice that Bela Ban is involved. I'll have to speak with him to get more details. Did you notice that it falls beneaths Sun's incubator? ;-) Bruce -- perl -e 'print unpack("u30","<0G)[EMAIL PROTECTED]&5R\"F9E<G)E=\$\!F<FEI+F-O;0\`\`");' The Castor Project http://www.castor.org/ Apache Geronimo http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html
