On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> I would prefer the tool ask the provider for the desired location for 
> the streams to be stored, which would also allow the provider to have 
> the file name end with .xml, and allow the configurations to be 
> seamlessly portable between tools.

        But the streams are only ever stored on the user's disk, and the
provider cannot select an appropriate location there.  The storage is only 
as a convenience for the user (as demonstrated by your EJB-to-EAR 
example).  When just configuring and deploying, the plan is never saved to 
disk, only generated from the DConfigBeans and passed directly to the 
DeploymentManager implementation.

> I'll chat with Jeremy later.  I really want to see this spec work, 
> which means the vendors need to actually try to support this (and not 
> take the easy out), and the end users need to find the tools useable.  
> I'm concerned that the non-vendor supplied tools will be clunky, so 
> people will only use vendor tools.  I hope it works out, but I'm 
> currently fairly pessimistic.  Anyway, I am confident this will work 
> for us as we are the vendor and can supply our own tools.

        Netbeans has a tool already.  I don't think it's unnecessarily 
clunky.  In fact, I don't see what advantages a vendor's own tool could 
really have here.  I guess I'll just have to show you a good tool and then 
you'll believe me.  :)

        Let me ask you this: would the ideal tool for you be:

 - command-line
 - web-based
 - standalone Swing
 - Swing IDE plug-in

Aaron

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