On 04/11/14 09:54, Alan Milewczyk wrote:
I'm amazed at these discussions.
The issue for the BBC is one of the protection of intellectual property.
Yes, the problem has been around since recording devices became
available but since the advent of digital technology it has spiralled
out of all belief as a problem to the copyright holder.
Digital gives us the unprecedented ability to make a perfect copy, not a
lossy copy as with tape (whether audio or video). It enables us to make
copies faster than ever before, even without ever "holding" that medium
in one's hands.
We've seen how the film studios have been clamping down on piracy. The
BBC is sitting on a massive treasure trove. What makes anyone think they
will give this up willingly. Ignoring the technical limitations of the
BBC iPlayer, the BBC lets us "enjoy" THEIR content for a limited period.
What we have with get_iplayer is a way of circumventing the restrictions
the BBC puts on us.
Don't get me wrong, I am a massive fan of get_iplayer, but I think
protestations of the sort described in these threads will fall on deaf
ears. Just be thankful we have people with the technical ability to keep
up with whatever barriers are put our way!
Alan
On 04/11/2014 09:18, wacla...@btconnect.com wrote:
On 04/11/14 01:51, Peter S Kirk wrote:
After all, GiP is no different from the old method of recording TV to
VCR
or Radio to cassette tape.
Isn't that the point, by using GIP we are only using another type of
recording device to record content from the BBC. I could buy a
DigitalTV today, connect a external HD to it and record digital TV and
store it for as long I wish. The only difference by using GIP is that
I am recording programs that have been aired in the past 30 days, not
live broadcasts.
Would it be worth trying to start some dialogue with the BBC (not sure
if this has already been tried ?) to see if there is a way they (GIP
developers) could work together and have GIP as a recognised 3rd party
product or just accepted for Nitro. As it has proved in the last few
days, the BBC changes things people will find a way to get over these
changes, by closing doors, it only makes people more determined.
If the BBC wanted to they could shut down GIP today by appling DRM to
all content streaming (like Netflix and Prime) so I cannot see by
starting any dialogue, how that would change anything as they already
know about GIP, we are not telling them something they don't know about.
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The mistake you and they are making is that it can somehow be protected
and so is worth a fortune. It cant and so it isn't. As you say they
could shut down GIP today but that would not stop anything they
broadcast or make available appearing on 'pirate' sites immediately.
If I can watch it on TV or in iPlayer I can make a perfect copy of it
irrelevant of the DRM. The DRM merely inconveniences everyone - it does
not achieve any form of IP security. They are wasting their time - and
the licence payers but barely anyone elses.
This is the message that should be going out.
OH that an a big thanks again DP!
Tom
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