Cross posting between multiple mailing lists is something that I have a serious downer on. People don't always agree to their postings being published elsewhere, or their email address being publicised outside of the lists they have subscribed to. As such I regard issues about who a reply goes to when multiple mailing lists are involved as a rare corner case, because it should happen very infrequently. I do not expect another mailing list to suddenly be CC'd in the middle of a discussion.
-- Owen Smith <[email protected]> Cambridge, UK On 8 Nov 2014, at 22:26, David Woodhouse <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, 2014-11-08 at 22:02 +0000, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: >> David Woodhouse <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Now think about what happens if you *don't* do people the courtesy of >>> copying them directly. Some people will be cut out of the conversation >>> *entirely* >> >> - only if they weren't mail list subscribers in the first place. Arguably >> they shouldn't have been CCed (or whatever) on public mail list posts by >> whoever exposed their addresses to the world. > > It happens to me all the time, and I certainly wouldn't say that it > shouldn't happen. A question is asked and I get added to Cc by someone > who knows I'll be able to help. Or a mailing list that I'm on is added > to Cc; it doesn't even have to be my personal address. > > If you reply to "the" list, you're replying to only *one* list of the > many. Possibly not the one I'm on. > >>> and others will just be receiving it in a delayed form... >> >> That's up to them and how they choose to get all the other traffic from that >> mail list, surely? Why should replies to their posts be given special >> treatment? > > You haven't actually looked at the examples in > http://david.woodhou.se/reply-to-list.html have you? > > >> You amaze me. Couldn't you filter such incoming replies (eg because they're >> In-Reply-To one of your message ids), colour them differently or something? > > No. Not if I don't receive them at *all*, like some of the examples > described in the above-referenced page. > > And even if I do, why should I jump through hoops for the benefit of > someone who can't even be bothered to do me the courtesy of keeping me > in Cc when reply to something I've said? I *do* have the filters for > filters containing References: headers that indicate I've participated > in a thread, and I do use them in some circumstances. But not for the > benefit of *others* who I'm trying to help. > >>> And if I *do* happen to see it and they haven't done me the courtesy of >>> replying directly to me, I'll be very disinclined to continue helping >>> them. Life's too short to help people who make life hard for themselves >>> and me. >> >> It seems to me that you're expecting people to do things differently here >> because it suits you better that way. > > I expect people to know the difference between the two buttons in their > mailer, and have little sympathy for those who can't be bothered to > press the right one each time so they want them both to do the same. > > -- > dwmw2 > _______________________________________________ > get_iplayer mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer _______________________________________________ get_iplayer mailing list [email protected] http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer

