I have had the message saying my post was being held for list moderator review. I also have a laptop running XP, which I am now using to post this message. I have checked, and the offending message was not sent from the XP machine, which I am using to send this message. I think it was sent from a laptop running Windows 7 Professional and Windows Mail (the Vista email client). It has since been upgraded to Windows 10, which has meant I have had to move to Windows Live Mail. It seems the Sent items have not been imported.

At the time I thought the subject line might have been embargoed. It was --p???? option. I have since see a comment that discussion of that option is banned.

Another possible cause was where I was when I sent it. I'll email you with details. If that was the cause, I can't reproduce it until I go back there.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Vangelis forthnet" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 1:31 AM
Subject: Outlook Express 6 on WinXP and this list


On Tue Apr 5 16:36:40 BST 2016, I wrote:
Also, I was e-mailed in private by member "d4x"
(who has trouble sending e-mails directly to the list)

Hi - it has since emerged that GiP user "d4x" employs Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 as his e-mail client, which is the built-in e-mail client of Windows XP.

"d4x" had recently another Windows XP related issue that was posted on the support forum: https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-686-post-3740.html and was quickly acted upon by dinkypumpkin, but it appears his EOL'd OS is causing him extra grief when trying to subscribe/post to this very list. Registration/Subscription appears successful, but no confirmation e-mail is received, nor any other list traffic. Trying to post directly to the list (in plain-text format) results in an immediate bounce by the list. I was intrigued by his issue so today I brought my WinXP (SP2) desktop out of retirement (been there since November 2015) and did some tests: When I myself tried to post to the list using MSOE 6.00, the test mail instantly bounced back:
Your mail to 'get_iplayer' with the subject

  Re: Total failure for tv this morning - 9.30am BST

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

 Message has a suspicious header

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive
notification of the moderator's decision.  If you would like to cancel
this posting, please visit the following URL:

I have advised "d4x" to try third party mail clients on XP to see if that fixes his issue, have yet to hear back. I recall some list members are still on XP - can any of you replicate reported issue?

Since the deprecation of SHA-1 Hashing Algorithm by Microsoft on Jan 1st 2016, I now find many SSL (https) URLs simply won't load in XP's IE8, the same goes for other functions using OS modules to access the net - I believe this is the reason behind d4x's "zeranoe" issue...

To all list members: Please refrain from the obvious suggestion d4x should either upgrade to a MS supported Windows version or change to an Open Source OS; this is not the intent of my post!

To the list maintainer (David Woodhouse): Have you purposely blocked traffic originating from MSOE 6.00 / WinXP as being an insecure client/OS?

Many thanks for any additional detail/insight on this...

Kind regards, Vangelis.

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