On 2017-01-24 20:19, Tony Quinn wrote:
On 24-Jan-17 8:16 PM, Tony Quinn wrote:

On 24-Jan-17 8:11 PM, Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip wrote:

I have some original recordings made in the last year or two at choral concerts - mostly 24 bit, 44.1 khz, stereo uncompressed WAV files, made with ecent quality condenser mics. I was surprised how hard it was to tell the originals apart from eg 320kbps MP3 let alone eg 160kbps. And I was listening extremely carefully, criticising my own recordings.

I assume that you weren't doing a blind test, so one can expect some sort of conformation bias to play a part here too.
Obviously that should have read "....confirmation bias"

Bias could have worked in either direction though.

I /expected/ to be able to discriminate easily, and couldn't. I didn't listen to the whole concert at each quality level, just snippets of audio which I thought might be more or less blurred depending on quality - rapid note sequences, very quiet passages (but then audience and venue noise was a problem there), very loud passages and so on. I was listening for detail I knew to be present on the original recording trying to assess whether it wasn't as precise in the MP3 files. It wasn't scientific and I know I could (and probably will) do a better job on that sometime, but nevertheless I didn't get the impression that 360kbps MP3
was all that bad.

So am I keeping the 24 bit originals? Yes. Maybe younger ears can still hear the difference.

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Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own

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