A couple of years ago there were problems with HLS and there was
speculation that we might have 50 fps HVFhd and DVFhd as the only HD
modes. At that time I wondered if it would be feasible to drop every
other frame to reduce the frame rte to 25 fps. I thought because of the
H.264 delta encoding it would probably mean transcoding and that it
would be too slow.
On a 42" screen for the programmes that I usually watch I cannot see any
difference between a HD picture at 50 fps and one at 25 fps, so 50 fps
for me is just a waste of bandwidth and storage space, so I have been
looking at it again.
The ffmpeg documentation
at 5.5 Video Options says for -r
"As an output option, duplicate or drop input frames to achieve constant
output frame rate fps."
That would be very useful if it means there is no need for transcoding.
I found this example.
The command I used for the first suggestion, with re-encoding, was
ffmpeg -i am.mp4 -vf "setpts=PTS" -f 25 am4.mp4
That worked and kept the audio. It was slow, taking about 1.5 times
real time. Also the bit rate at about 1.4Mbit/s was only about
two-thirds of what I was expecting, so it may have been more compressed
than the original. I had first tried "setpts=0.5*PTS" but that produced
a file which played at twice speed and "setpts=2*PTS" which played at
For the second example without re-encoding my commands were
ffmpeg -i am.mp4 -c copy -f h264 am1.h264
ffmpeg -i am1.h264 -c copy -r 25 am2.mp4
There was no audio, although that can be added back later. It was quite
quick, at about a fiftieth of real time. It did not achieve any
reduction in file size or bit rate. and the frame rate remained at 50
fps, so the -r 25 had been ignored. I did get lots of error messages
saying "pts has no value" so maybe I need to set that. I did try
repeating the -vf parameter from the first command it said,
Filtergraph 'setpts=PTS' was defined for video output stream 0:0 but
codec copy was selected.
Filtering and streamcopy cannot be used together.
The second example from the stackoverflow page placed the parameter
-r=25 before -i. I tried that. There was no reduction in file size but
the time was made twice as long and the file played at half speed. As I
understand it, placing the parameter in that position made it an input
Has anyone managed to get ffmpeg to halve the frame rate without
re-encoding? Can it be applied to the raw .ts output?
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