Hi Rafael,

Seems like it would be great to see as an add-on first. Perhaps like the
Plone path...high quality and much-used add ons can be incorporated into the
core as the community sees fit.

Good luck! Please keep us posted on the progress.

-c

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 1:01 PM, rafael <rafaelcro...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> I have talked to Pavel and he has written a great product for the use
> case he described (selling customized furniture). It is not product
> variation (mostly because it does not deal with stocks quantities),
> and he decided to call it product configuration. It fits my usecase,
> because, the tshirts my client sells are made upon demand..
>
> I offered myself to help make a release distribution out of his code,
> more specifically to try to convert it to something for general use. I
> am though facing initial difficulties.
>
> 1) Some of the features depend on the theme used. This is because, to
> create and show product variations, and also let the client choose
> them in a nice interface, have much to do with the presentation.
> Besides the eggs that constitute his work (altikon.atcts,
> altikon.checkout,  altikon.imagemap ,altikon.theme), there are some
> needed dependencies: Products.ATVocabularyManager,
> Products.ATExtensions, collective.carousel, Products.Carousel, and
> webcouturier.dropdownmenu . I haven't read and understood the full
> code to see how intricated those products are and how we can split
> them to make this general product... Also we must see the status of
> those products in plone 4
>
> 2) Also the code seems to be tied to Plone 3... After running buildout
> with the development eggs in plone 4,  I can't add a Plone site,
> googling the error, I see some people had it before when the Plone
> version did not match CMF version. Also when i access the initial zmi
> page :8080 (without /manage), i do not get the new Plone 4 welcome
> page (with the big logo), but the old "Zope Quick Start  Welcome to
> Zope, a high-performance object-oriented  platform for building
> dynamic Web applications. Here are some quick  pointers to get you
> started: " . So somehow those eggs resurrected plone 3 inside Plone 4.
> Also, accessing the zmi manage interface I get "The site configuration
> is outdated and needs to be upgraded. " Although I have the newest
> Plone 4 version...
>
> 3) The product itself (pabo showed me a running test site) looks
> great. What I am not sure (according to previous list discussions) is
> if this feature should be implemented in getpaid core or as an add on
> product (pabo's case)... It is beside my capacity to merge pabo work
> in getpaid.core, because I don't understand both well.. But I see this
> is a decision we should make now, because changing getpaid.core is
> diametrically opposite to creating an addon pŕoduct...
>
> 4) So this is a call for more people to ressurect this thread, and
> from pabo starting point we could join forces to implement this most
> needed feature (in my opinion) for Plone.getpaid...
>
> I will be in #getpaid and will continue to see how to run part of
> pabo's code in plone 4...
>
>
> On 22 Jul, 11:41, rafael <rafaelcro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Pavel,
> >
> > I will be in #getpaid so we can talk more.
> >
> > My usecase is similar to yours. T-shirts with different colours, sizes,
> > etc, wich imply in extra cost.
> >
> > Is Mikko example gatpaid.atshop? He wrote this addon (but not finished)
> > and this could be a starting point for us..
> >
> > Two heads are always better then one and we could try to do this
> > together. I am sure Mikko will help also..
> >
> > I have one question on your approach. Why is the product id independent
> > from the variation? Why not make getpaid generate a id for each
> > combination product/variation?
> >
> > About the product view, as your furniture is not in stock you don't have
> > a picture of every product/variation, right? How do you think you will
> > show those variations?
> >
> > I was thinking about a set of images and a slideshow that could display
> > the variations. Mikko mentioned xslt, that would be great to generate
> > svg files that could merge (in my case) tshirts and the stamps...
> >
> > Anyway, I will be hanging in getpaid. Ping me there so we can talk more.
> >
> > I am sending this email also to the dev list so more people can be up to
> > this issue and give suggestions...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Rafael
> >
> > Em 21-07-2010 17:03, Pavel Bogdanovic escreveu:
> >
> > > Hi Rafael,
> > > sorry for delay. I have not startetd yet to develop. But I can explain
> > > shortly our usecase.
> >
> > > Our customer is selling furniture. These furniture can be delivered in
> > > several variations. But they are not at stock in all veriations. They
> > > will be produced according the choosen variation. But the price
> > > depends on the variation. f. e. a chair could be 180 EUR in black
> > > white and blue. But the other red variant costs 20 EUR surcharge. the
> > > product id is independent from the variation.
> > > When I start to code it I plan to start with the product view which is
> > > very case specific and does hopefully not touch getpaid. Mikko
> > > brainstormed that I should have any line item class which fits to my
> > > wishes and fits to getpaid. He showed me some code which could be an
> > > inspiration from his "variations". Sorry, I have to look into another
> > > notebook to find his example.
> > > Btw his usecase is different. He has a lot of products in different
> > > variations in stock. Every variation has a unique product id.
> > > I would really appreciate your help and would like to contribute to
> > > getpaid. I ll try to catch you at the irc tomorrow.
> >
> > > greetings
> > > Pavel
> > > ________________________________________
> >
> > >> Hi Pavel,
> >
> > >>    We have talked before in #getpaid. Mikko gave me your email because
> > >> we were discussing product variation implementation in getpaid. He
> told
> > >> me you are working on this. I would like to know the progress of this
> > >> work and if is there anything I can help.
> > >>    I really think this should not be an add on product, but an out of
> > >> the box funcionality, because it means modifying getpaid.core. I have
> > >> not coded anything yet, because I was waiting some replys to the email
> I
> > >> sent to the getpaid-dev list.
> > >>    I will be in #getpaid so we can discuss this...
> >
> > >> Thanks,
> >
> > >> Rafael
>
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