hi. i learned from your talk and updated http://www.erikyyy.de/noshine/ggi/ ********************************** please view it again and find the last errors. remember that everything that makes this solution slower than your idea is considered an error! i hope this document finally ends the problems of (almost) all game developers : - how to i fast blits for my 3D engine ? - how do i put the output of my car racing game onto screen ? - why is ggi slower than sdl ? etc ;) i'd like to see a link :-) cu erik -- Name: Erik Thiele \\\\ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] o `QQ'_ IRC: erikyyy / __8 WWW: http://www.erikyyy.de/ ' `