Carter

That smells wrong to me.  These flags have a very carefully defined meaning; see
            Note [PrimOp can_fail and has_side_effects]
in PrimOp.lhs

If you say it has side effects when it doesn’t, you’ll confuse your successor 
reading the code in five years time.

Better to find out what is going on and why.  Might you do that? What 
transformation invalidates the let/app invariant?  Make a small test case, use 
–dverbose-core2core –ddump-occur-anal –ddump-inlinings.  I would far rather 
that than install a land-mine in the code.

Simon

From: Carter Schonwald [mailto:carter.schonw...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 November 2014 00:54
To: Edward Kmett
Cc: ghc-devs@haskell.org; Simon Peyton Jones; Joachim Breitner
Subject: Re: let app invariant failure, HALP Re: how to write a ghc primop that 
acts on an unevaluated argument?

woot, solved it, at least in a way thats OK for now.

if I mark the prefetchValue operations as has_side_effects=True, the core lint 
failure goes away! I'm not sure if thats the right semantics in the long term, 
but it does give me a simple way to make sure it works safely for 7.10

pardon all the noise
-Carter

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Carter Schonwald 
<carter.schonw...@gmail.com<mailto:carter.schonw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
ok, i'm getting a let/app invariant failure when i build my test case with O1 
or O2 but not without

http://lpaste.net/114881

any help would be appreciated on how to address that

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Carter Schonwald 
<carter.schonw...@gmail.com<mailto:carter.schonw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
yup, i have that!

    wrapFetch prefetchValue0# (error "this shouldn't get evaluated")

in the test suite!

in contrast
    wrapFetch prefetchValue0# $! (error "this shouldn't get evaluated") does 
explode

shall I add a "should fail" test with the latter? (it doesn't seem worthwhile)

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Edward Kmett 
<ekm...@gmail.com<mailto:ekm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Maybe test for laziness in the argument by just putting something in that goes 
boom when forced, e.g. 'undefined'?


On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Carter Schonwald 
<carter.schonw...@gmail.com<mailto:carter.schonw...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey All,
as part of trying to get some fixups for how prefetch works into 7.10,
i'm adding a "prefetchValue" primop that prefetchs the memory location of a 
lifted heap value

namely

several operations of the following form

primop PrefetchValueOp1 "prefetchValue1#" GenPrimOp
   a -> State# s -> State# s
   with strictness  = { \ _arity -> mkClosedStrictSig [botDmd, topDmd] topRes }

I'd like some feedback on the strictness information design by someone who's 
familiar with how that piece of GHC. the idea being that prefetchValue is lazy 
in its polymorphic argument (it doesn't force it, it just does a prefetch on 
the heap location, which may or may not be evaluated).

https://phabricator.haskell.org/D350

is the code in question. And i *believe* i'm testing for being lazy in that 
argument correctly.

thoughts?

many thanks!
-Carter


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