Hello,

The first organising meeting just finished.  Attached you should find
the meeting notes (org format).  Don't hesitate to respond if you have
questions / need clarifications.

The next meeting will be Friday 29 September at 20h CET. Primary Agenda
item:
- discussion of financial organisation of next meeting.

Best wishes,

Alex Sassmannshausen
* Agenda

- Results of the GHM 2017 participants' survey.
- Financial results of GHM 2017
- legal structures for managing finances
- venue of 2018 GNU Hacker's meeting

* Results of the GHM 2017 participants' survey.

Result of survey:
http://darrington.wattle.id.au/ghm-survey-results.html

- 22 participants / 27 attendees
- We believe the survey is trustworthy (Cronbach Alpah of 0.81)
- high mean is better, low worse. 0 is min, 4 is max.

- In general positive feeling: only 2 real low scoring questions (telling)
- Lowest scoring was number of talks.
  + we should put more effort into calling for presentations next year.

- Else, question around local transport scored low.
  + We should consider arranging local transport options (e.g. hire minibus)

- Aware this survey (very positive), completed only by people who attended.
  + Perhaps we can devise another questionnaire for general GNU hackers?

- The point was made that lack of diversity can be self-reinforcing:
  if you don't see people like you speaking at conferences, you are
  less likely to go there…

- Reservations were expressed about the inability of non-attendees to
  express their dissatisfaction with, e.g., their ability to attend.

* Financial results of GHM 2017

Spreadsheet at
http://darrington.wattle.id.au/ghm.gnumeric

-> Surplus of EUR 1413.50

Large surplus largely due to last minute cancellations and the hotel
gracefully not charging us fully for those.

* legal structures for managing finances

- Reasons for legal entity:
  + minimise risk for organiser / financial organisation
  + able to provide tax invoices
  + increased trust
- Reasons against
  + overkill

- FSFE not equipped to provide service.

- The Society for Free Culture and Software are an option, with
  experience, run by chair person of FSFE, Jonas Öberg.
- Renewable Freedom Foundation <https://renewablefreedom.org/>
- The Commons Conservancy <https://commonsconservancy.org/>
- Public Software CIC <https://publicsoftware.eu/>
- FSF 
  + perhaps logical choice, as not tangentially related.

- Gnunet e.v. or Guix e.v. should only be last resorts.

- Possibility to found ghm e.v.
  + but concerns about admin overhead
  + tax authority inspections

- jdm will transfer the surplus from this year to FSF unless better
  alternative is provided to him

- we will decide on next year's financial structure at next meeting.

* venue of 2018 GNU Hacker's meeting

+ Catonano's Apulia proposal is still present.
  - still getting information there
  - Catonano unfortunately did not attend the meeting

+ grothoff & rocky proposed new venue:
  - home of modern decentralism
  - in the jura, Switzerland
  - house that is used for events such as these
  - websites at synergiehub.ch
  - capacity of about 40 in summer
  - accomodation in dorms & tents
  - hotel not too far away.
  - no large meeting room: more like several with capacity of around
    20
  - unclear what presentation provisions (beamer etc might have to be
    sourced separately)
  - 10 EUR per night roughly for space at venue.
  - accessible by public transport, 1hr from Bern
  - Decision should be made by christmas

+ Proposed actions:
  + delegate someone to collect info on proposed venues from local
    organisers
  + decide in a month where we hold it

+ Questions to be provided in proposal:
  - exact location known?
  - overnight cost to stay (cheapest, and hotel-in-area)
  - cost to the venue
  - capacity of the venue (largest presentation room, total number of 
participants)
  - local contact person(s)
  - availability (day, night, # days)
  - can the meeting be self-contained at venue

+ JMD will send email asking for answers to specific questions for
  local organisers to respond to.
  + We will decide on venue after around ~1month has passed since
    email, in GHM organising meeting.
  + Marcel will help

* Date / Time next meeting

  OK, next meeting will be Friday 29th 8pm CET, primary agenda item is
  finance collection.

* Update on Videos

  - Should not take much longer
  - IT probs have delayed final processing.
  - videos still with Chris, but hopefully soon with Luca
Alex Sassmannshausen writes:

> Hello,
>
> To confirm, the meeting's preliminary agenda will be:
>
> - venue of 2018 GNU Hacker's meeting
> - legal structures for managing finances
> - Financial results of GHM 2017
> - Results of the GHM 2017 participants' survey.
>
> We should be able to add additional items at the meeting.
>
> The meeting will take place on Friday 15 September at 20h Central
> European Summer Time (22h UTC) in the #ghm channel on Freenode.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Alex Sassmannshausen
>
> Alex Sassmannshausen writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> We will be holding the first organizing meeting for the 2018 GHM on
>> Friday 15 September at 20h Central European Summer Time (22h UTC) in the
>> #ghm channel on Freenode.
>>
>> The meeting is open, as agreed at the last GHM. If you are interested,
>> drop by.  We will decide how to proceed with organisation and further
>> meetings at this meeting.
>>
>> We will at the very least discuss:
>> - venue
>> - finances (including the means by which we can collect money — Thanks
>> Ricardo for starting that conversation, and for everyone who chipped in
>> to provide options and thoughts!)
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Alex Sassmannshausen

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