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me comprendre Gerard le seniorprovencal .



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>   1. Re:  something's starting, it is the text tool
>      (Alexandre Prokoudine)
>   2. Re:  something's starting, it is the text tool (Jay Smith)
>   3. Re:  something's starting, it is the text tool (Michael Natterer)
>   4. Re:  something's starting, it is the text tool (Michael Natterer)
>   5.  Request for 2.8 - treat images as items (Saul Goode)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 22:55:25 +0400
> From: Alexandre Prokoudine <[email protected]>
> To: gimp-developer <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text
>        tool
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> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>
> > 1. Really small text frames: with few words in not more than two rows
> > (think logos, captions for screenshots etc.). Adjustments: font, font
> > face, size, letter spacing, baseline offset, color. Missing property:
> > stroke color.
>
> My bad: stroke color _and_ stroke width
>
> Alexandre Prokoudine
> http://libregraphicsworld.org
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:11:59 -0500
> From: Jay Smith <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text
>        tool
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> On 01/13/2012 12:12 PM, peter sikking wrote:
> >
> > so please help us by replying here, with you answer what
> > text means to you when working with GIMP.
>
>
> One of my major uses is composing textual elements of book covers and
> spines.
>
> Another use is minor overlays of bits of text on photographs to point
> out relevant technical features in the photos.
>
>
> What I wish to see in text tools....
>
> - Always editable text as long as file in a format that is not flattened.
>
> - Important (to me): Most recently used text settings (i.e. typestyle,
> size, bold/italic, color, etc.) to be saved (including between Gimp
> restarts) for default us in next operation.  (Too many settings in Gimp
> are not saved, even while editing within session of editing a single
> image -- this should be a focus of improvement soon.)
>
> - Per above, save settings as a "set" of settings that can be brought
> back for use (like Curves are saved).  These "sets" of settings should
> be nameable by the user (or if not named by user, then default name of
> date/time).  Naming is very important to be able to quickly find
> settings for various projects.
>
> - Once text is created, always be able to change typestyle, size,
> bold/italic, color, etc., etc.
>
>     - In this context, be able to stay in the text dialog and
>       be able to highlight & change differing parts of the text.
>       i.e. Don't have to get out of dialog for each such change.
>       i.e. Changes are _not_ all-or-nothing.
>
> - When editing existing text, if user clicks in the middle to text, then
> further typing of characters uses the attributes in which it is in the
> middle.  Same for either end of string, but I understand that the user
> must be sure to get to the beginning or end of string in a way that
> keeps the user inside the current attributes of the text.
>
> - Text to be rotatable as any other layer without losing quality.
>
> - Multiple text layers that can be edited individually or locked
> together for movement of layers as a group.
>
> - Preview window showing net effect of text on total image.  If the user
> has to edit text and then get out of dialog and render to be able to see
> the net effect, the process can get very time consuming.
>
> ? Maybe have a warning if image resolution is too low to render the text
> without having "jaggies".
>
> Jay
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:24:02 +0100
> From: Michael Natterer <[email protected]>
> To: Jay Smith <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text
>        tool
> Message-ID: <1326482642.29255.0.camel@localhost>
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>
> Hi Jay,
>
> all of that, apart from rotating while staying editable,
> is implemented and will be in gimp 2.8.
>
> --mitch
>
> On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 14:11 -0500, Jay Smith wrote:
> > On 01/13/2012 12:12 PM, peter sikking wrote:
> > >
> > > so please help us by replying here, with you answer what
> > > text means to you when working with GIMP.
> >
> >
> > One of my major uses is composing textual elements of book covers and
> > spines.
> >
> > Another use is minor overlays of bits of text on photographs to point
> > out relevant technical features in the photos.
> >
> >
> > What I wish to see in text tools....
> >
> > - Always editable text as long as file in a format that is not flattened.
> >
> > - Important (to me): Most recently used text settings (i.e. typestyle,
> > size, bold/italic, color, etc.) to be saved (including between Gimp
> > restarts) for default us in next operation.  (Too many settings in Gimp
> > are not saved, even while editing within session of editing a single
> > image -- this should be a focus of improvement soon.)
> >
> > - Per above, save settings as a "set" of settings that can be brought
> > back for use (like Curves are saved).  These "sets" of settings should
> > be nameable by the user (or if not named by user, then default name of
> > date/time).  Naming is very important to be able to quickly find
> > settings for various projects.
> >
> > - Once text is created, always be able to change typestyle, size,
> > bold/italic, color, etc., etc.
> >
> >      - In this context, be able to stay in the text dialog and
> >        be able to highlight & change differing parts of the text.
> >        i.e. Don't have to get out of dialog for each such change.
> >        i.e. Changes are _not_ all-or-nothing.
> >
> > - When editing existing text, if user clicks in the middle to text, then
> > further typing of characters uses the attributes in which it is in the
> > middle.  Same for either end of string, but I understand that the user
> > must be sure to get to the beginning or end of string in a way that
> > keeps the user inside the current attributes of the text.
> >
> > - Text to be rotatable as any other layer without losing quality.
> >
> > - Multiple text layers that can be edited individually or locked
> > together for movement of layers as a group.
> >
> > - Preview window showing net effect of text on total image.  If the user
> > has to edit text and then get out of dialog and render to be able to see
> > the net effect, the process can get very time consuming.
> >
> > ? Maybe have a warning if image resolution is too low to render the text
> > without having "jaggies".
> >
> > Jay
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 20:26:27 +0100
> From: Michael Natterer <[email protected]>
> To: Jay Smith <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] something's starting, it is the text
>        tool
> Message-ID: <1326482787.29255.1.camel@localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 20:24 +0100, Michael Natterer wrote:
> > Hi Jay,
> >
> > all of that, apart from rotating while staying editable,
> > is implemented and will be in gimp 2.8.
> >
> > --mitch
> >
> > On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 14:11 -0500, Jay Smith wrote:
> > > On 01/13/2012 12:12 PM, peter sikking wrote:
> > > >
> > > > so please help us by replying here, with you answer what
> > > > text means to you when working with GIMP.
> > >
> > >
> > > One of my major uses is composing textual elements of book covers and
> > > spines.
> > >
> > > Another use is minor overlays of bits of text on photographs to point
> > > out relevant technical features in the photos.
> > >
> > >
> > > What I wish to see in text tools....
> > >
> > > - Always editable text as long as file in a format that is not
> flattened.
> > >
> > > - Important (to me): Most recently used text settings (i.e. typestyle,
> > > size, bold/italic, color, etc.) to be saved (including between Gimp
> > > restarts) for default us in next operation.  (Too many settings in Gimp
> > > are not saved, even while editing within session of editing a single
> > > image -- this should be a focus of improvement soon.)
>
> I was too fast, all but the above point :) You can save the tool options
> part though, lacking bold/italic.
>
> > > - Per above, save settings as a "set" of settings that can be brought
> > > back for use (like Curves are saved).  These "sets" of settings should
> > > be nameable by the user (or if not named by user, then default name of
> > > date/time).  Naming is very important to be able to quickly find
> > > settings for various projects.
> > >
> > > - Once text is created, always be able to change typestyle, size,
> > > bold/italic, color, etc., etc.
> > >
> > >      - In this context, be able to stay in the text dialog and
> > >        be able to highlight & change differing parts of the text.
> > >        i.e. Don't have to get out of dialog for each such change.
> > >        i.e. Changes are _not_ all-or-nothing.
> > >
> > > - When editing existing text, if user clicks in the middle to text,
> then
> > > further typing of characters uses the attributes in which it is in the
> > > middle.  Same for either end of string, but I understand that the user
> > > must be sure to get to the beginning or end of string in a way that
> > > keeps the user inside the current attributes of the text.
> > >
> > > - Text to be rotatable as any other layer without losing quality.
> > >
> > > - Multiple text layers that can be edited individually or locked
> > > together for movement of layers as a group.
> > >
> > > - Preview window showing net effect of text on total image.  If the
> user
> > > has to edit text and then get out of dialog and render to be able to
> see
> > > the net effect, the process can get very time consuming.
> > >
> > > ? Maybe have a warning if image resolution is too low to render the
> text
> > > without having "jaggies".
> > >
> > > Jay
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > gimp-developer-list mailing list
> > > [email protected]
> > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > gimp-developer-list mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 14:50:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: Saul Goode <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Gimp-developer] Request for 2.8 - treat images as items
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>
> It would be nice for plug-ins if the set of unique identifiers used for
> "images" did not intersect with those employed for "items", thus permitting
> a 'gimp-image-is-valid' test to provide a correct response if passed the
> identifier of an item.
>
> The reasoning is that there is much similarity between the structure of a
> "layer group" and the structure of an "image"; at least with regard to the
> constituent of "items". Or put another way, an image's drawable hierarchy
> is identical to that of a layer group (please correct me if I'm mistaken)
> and it may prove useful in the future to make use of this similarity (e.g.,
> load image as group, save group as image).
>
> Currently, images and items can share the same unique identifier and my
> proposal is that the identifiers for both be generated from the same pool
> of available identifiers, guaranteeing that no overlap takes place. This
> fix would seem pretty trivial to make -- and I can't think of any downside
> (other than perhaps exhausting available unique identifiers in 8000 years
> instead of 9000) -- however, I was unable to find in GIMP's code where
> these identifiers are retrieved.
>
>
>
>
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BONSOIR , J'ai eu un gros BUG informatique à savoir que toutes mes données
ne sont plus enregistrer ,de ce fait je doit tout recommencer ( + de 3 ans
de travail ) ENFIN ,je ne baisse pas les bras et je vais tout recommencer ,
MERCI de me comprendre Gerard le senior provencal . à très bientôt .
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