--- En date de : Ven 16.11.12, Ali Carikcioglu <[email protected]> a écrit :

>Hello everyone,
>First of all, I want to thank all developers for making this great program 
>GIMP.
>And I have some improvement suggestions about GIMP.
...
>6) Combine Save As and Export buttons:  Click Save As and, save as jpg, is not
>possible. I think Save As and Export serve the same purpose and can be 
>combined.

Hello Ali et al.

I have the exact same concern about the save function(s). IMHO there are 5, too 
many of them, which most probably confuses users (I was as to the «export as» 
function). From what I have understood, correct me if I'm wrong:

1. Save - can only save the current project under a .XCF picture
2. Save as - idem, under a new name, remains the current project
3. Save a copy - same as save as but the copy doesn't become the current project
4. Export - Doesn't save the current project but the equivalent picture under 
any format, any name
5. Export as - Re-uses the name from the previous function.

Here's my point as a casual user.

In general, the more functions for the same task, the more confusing. "Save a 
copy" and both the "export" functions play the same role on the user's 
perspective: the working project remains "dirty". Whether the working project 
will be saved as, exported, re-exported is a choice that can occur at the save 
dialogue box, with check boxes for instance. I mean it's perfectly fine if you 
delay the decision to the last second save for it's a choice that generally 
occurs once.

Here's what I expect from Gimp as for the save features.

A. "Save" my image by default (when I press Ctrl+S), regardless of whether I 
opened a flat image or a Gimp project or any other Gimp compatible project 
(e.g. Photoshop, whatever).

B. "Save" my project in whatever file format I want. I don't want to think 
"export" for a flat image and "save [as...]" for a Gimp project. I want Gimp to 
think and be smart for me, he can do it after all. I don't mind a reminder 
about losing layers or resolution or quality... I'm fine with that. Eventually 
Gimp might be as smart as to suggest (i.e. preselect from the "file format" 
list):
   . PNG if there's and only one layer
   . XCF otherwise.

C. "Save as..." whenever I need to save my project under a new name. Again he 
be able to handle whatever file format I want, possibly losing quality, 
transparency, layers... I don't mind being reminded. (And if I could tell Gimp 
to not remind me in the future, that'd be even better.)

D. If I opened a flat file, Gimp should save a flat file when I use "save" (see 
A), eventually reminding me of the implications as I explained above. "Save 
as..." would then suggest saving a Gimp project however, still allowing the 
selection of any other file format. But in general I want to keep my layers, 
undo/redo levels... unless, for instance, I'm warned Gimp is going to flatten 
the image while saving as a flat file format.

As for saving a copy (or exporting), I have no fixed idea about that, except 
that I personally have no use of such a feature as all I want is keep my 
working project up-to-date, i.e. I want to be able to save it fast (Ctrl+S) or 
under a new name ("Save as"). But I want to be sure I never lose too much if 
something goes wrong.

If one wants it, I'd imagine a check box called "Save a copy" in the "Save 
as..." dialogue. It would keep the working project in the dirty state. But even 
then I for one see no reason nor use for that. For the record, I use the visual 
"star" in the title bar to check while undoing/redoing whether I reach the step 
when I last saved my project. This information is lost with the non-save tools.

These are of course my personal standpoints on the matter, which were IIRC as 
implemented in Gimp 2.6. So I guess you guys had reasons to change Gimp save 
pattern. However I perceive the new scheme as more complex, confusing and 
cumbersome than before with more than half of the features that, on the user's 
perspective bring no valuable difference.

Keep rocking.

Vince C.

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