Hello,

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Petteri Soininen <peso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Wouldn't that confusion be resolved by naming them as they are meant to be
> used:
> Symbolic-for-dark and Symbolic-for-light?

Indeed it would. But Schumaml was noting on IRC later on that people
could have custom themes which are neither dark nor light (what about
a pink My Little Poney theme! :P).
Also we actually have several shades of Grey (official) themes as
well. What icon theme is for them?

Someone else was noting that in RawTherapee, they actually have an
icon theme of light icons called "Dark" (and the opposite as well)
because it is meant to be used with the dark theme. This example
really show that the worry of confusion is actually quite real.
But in the same time, these are automatically tied together, which is
not the case in GIMP. So what works there could not work for us.

Anyway apart from the detail of "how about grey or
neither-dark-nor-light themes?" your idea still makes sense.

Jehan

> On 31.5.2016 0:35, Jehan Pagès wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Michael Schumacher <schum...@gmx.de>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> in the development branch, we got two Symbolic icon themes, Symbolic and
>>> Symbolic-Inverted.
>>>
>>> This hints at their relationship, as one is the inverted version of the
>>> other. For those who know how the build works, it also tells which one
>>> is generated from the other (by means of a gegl:invert-gamma op).
>>
>> Copy-paste from IRC:
>>
>> 22:59 < Jehan> schumaml: last time we had the discussion, the problem
>> which rised was: is "Symbolic dark" about dark icons (for light
>> themes) or the icon set for dark themes (thus light icons).
>> 23:01 < Jehan> So we went with the idea that the "Symbolic" is simply
>> the default icon theme (hence the light ones for a dark theme).
>>
>> Now I don't really mind going for dark/light instead. I agree with the
>> rest of the logics of Michael here. Yes, "Symbolic" and "Symbolic
>> Inverted" are not that clear either. It's just that with the split of
>> themes and icon themes, we felt that naming icon themes dark/light
>> were not that clear and obvious either.
>>
>> Well I needed to state the current logics. Now I don't really care.
>> With the knowledge of why what is named how, you can decide what
>> should be the future name, if it needs to change. :-)
>>
>> Jehan
>>
>>> We also got five ui themes of different lightness and darkness, and the
>>> user is supposed to use a combination of them suited to their own
>>> preference and needs. I dare say many may consider light icons on darker
>>> backgrounds or dark icons on lighter backgrounds a suitable UI design.
>>>
>>> It is not immediately obvious to the user which icon theme is the dark
>>> one and which is the light one, by theme name alone. There are icons in
>>> the preferences, but there might not always be the advantage of using
>>> them, for example when providing text-only support to a "your icons are
>>> invisible!1!!"-type support request.
>>>
>>> Therefore, I suggest to rename the icons themes to Symbolic-Light and
>>> Symbolic-Dark, respectively, and keep them as such for the 2.10 release.
>>>
>>> Other names to make the difference and the icons' appearance obvious are
>>> possible as well, of course.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Michael
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>>
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