Hi,

Well, there's only few 'built-in' themes that should be considered now and if the naming convention fits those, I think that's enough. Other themes can be named freely by their author anyways and My Little Poney theme will probably be fully customized to fit
existing symbols or with awesome symbols of it's own... :D

-Petteri

On 31.5.2016 12:42, Jehan Pagès wrote:
Hello,

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 4:10 AM, Petteri Soininen <peso...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Wouldn't that confusion be resolved by naming them as they are meant to be
used:
Symbolic-for-dark and Symbolic-for-light?
Indeed it would. But Schumaml was noting on IRC later on that people
could have custom themes which are neither dark nor light (what about
a pink My Little Poney theme! :P).
Also we actually have several shades of Grey (official) themes as
well. What icon theme is for them?

Someone else was noting that in RawTherapee, they actually have an
icon theme of light icons called "Dark" (and the opposite as well)
because it is meant to be used with the dark theme. This example
really show that the worry of confusion is actually quite real.
But in the same time, these are automatically tied together, which is
not the case in GIMP. So what works there could not work for us.

Anyway apart from the detail of "how about grey or
neither-dark-nor-light themes?" your idea still makes sense.

Jehan

On 31.5.2016 0:35, Jehan Pagès wrote:
Hi,

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Michael Schumacher <schum...@gmx.de>
wrote:
Hi,

in the development branch, we got two Symbolic icon themes, Symbolic and
Symbolic-Inverted.

This hints at their relationship, as one is the inverted version of the
other. For those who know how the build works, it also tells which one
is generated from the other (by means of a gegl:invert-gamma op).
Copy-paste from IRC:

22:59 < Jehan> schumaml: last time we had the discussion, the problem
which rised was: is "Symbolic dark" about dark icons (for light
themes) or the icon set for dark themes (thus light icons).
23:01 < Jehan> So we went with the idea that the "Symbolic" is simply
the default icon theme (hence the light ones for a dark theme).

Now I don't really mind going for dark/light instead. I agree with the
rest of the logics of Michael here. Yes, "Symbolic" and "Symbolic
Inverted" are not that clear either. It's just that with the split of
themes and icon themes, we felt that naming icon themes dark/light
were not that clear and obvious either.

Well I needed to state the current logics. Now I don't really care.
With the knowledge of why what is named how, you can decide what
should be the future name, if it needs to change. :-)

Jehan

We also got five ui themes of different lightness and darkness, and the
user is supposed to use a combination of them suited to their own
preference and needs. I dare say many may consider light icons on darker
backgrounds or dark icons on lighter backgrounds a suitable UI design.

It is not immediately obvious to the user which icon theme is the dark
one and which is the light one, by theme name alone. There are icons in
the preferences, but there might not always be the advantage of using
them, for example when providing text-only support to a "your icons are
invisible!1!!"-type support request.

Therefore, I suggest to rename the icons themes to Symbolic-Light and
Symbolic-Dark, respectively, and keep them as such for the 2.10 release.

Other names to make the difference and the icons' appearance obvious are
possible as well, of course.


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Michael
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