In the interests of moving on with more important things than the symantics
of "we", I can attempt to extract the team aspect from my verbiage.

I can say for example: "It can be done this way." or "It might be decided
that."
It sounds cold, and impersonal to me, but if it allows us to move forward
with discussing GIMP UI and features, then I'll do my best.

-C

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 7:06 AM, C R <caj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So when I say "we can do this", I should say "I can do this"?
> I do wonder if people actually read what I post. :)
>
> -C
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 6:34 AM, JLuc <j...@no-log.org> wrote:
>
>> As for the "we"
>> Le 22/06/2016 22:48, C R a écrit :
>>
>>> I admit that I don't care at all who "we" includes. Substitute with
>>> "interested parties". I'm well aware that even great ideas might never
>>> get
>>> priority. There are no promises, no guarantees. Right now "we" includes
>>> just who is here. If we are not allowed to discuss what we, might do or
>>> might want to do in the future, then I've missed the point entirely.
>>>
>>
>> Just a remark.
>>
>> Maybe you imagine that speaking as "we" or "interested parties"
>> gives more weight to your words.
>> But how do you know that all the 'I' we are dont disagree with
>> what you think 'we' think or experience ?
>> As a gimp user's, i havent granted anybody the right to speak on my
>> behalf !
>>
>> So, I appreciate when contibutors speak as 'I', not 'we',
>> - all the more when you "dont care at all who 'we' is" -.
>>
>> Beside being more honest,
>> a clear "I" testimony will sound much stronger than a twisted "we".
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> :-)
>> JLuc
>>
>>
>> On 22 Jun 2016 8:31 pm, "Tobias Ellinghaus" <h...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wednesday 22 June 2016 18:28:45 C R wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Already answered this before. "We" is the community. The community is
>>>>>
>>>> made
>>>>
>>>>> of everyone involved in the GIMP project who can act to improve it. So
>>>>> if
>>>>> we as a community decide it's worth changing, then we can change it. I
>>>>> mean, that's usually the point the point of the developer mailing list,
>>>>>
>>>> no?
>>>>
>>>> There seems to be a misunderstanding of how this software works. The
>>>> "community" (whoever that might include) can decide whatever it wants,
>>>> but
>>>> this is not a democracy, so the real decision is made by others. Mostly
>>>> mitch.
>>>> Who seems to stay away from all the bike shedding on this list more and
>>>> more.
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>> Tobias
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