Please copy gimp-print-devel on all of this.

   From: RaphaŽl Quinet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 17:43:00 +0200

   I have just tried compiling gimp-1.2.4-pre1 on Solaris, and I had some
   problems because of the new dependency on gimp-print (which was part of
   the GIMP package until 1.2.3).

   I tried to see that from the point of view of a novice user who
   does not know exactly what is provided by each package, instead of
   taking the point of view of a GIMP developer who knows the history
   of both packages.  And at first sight, it looks like there is a
   circular dependency: in order to build the GIMP, you need
   libgimpprint, which is part of the gimp-print package (and you need
   a version >= 4.2.0).  But in order to build gimp-print, you need
   the GIMP!

I suppose that one option would be to distribute libgimpprint as a
separate package, with each layered product (Gimp plugin, CUPS driver,
old-style Ghostscript driver, Ghostscript IJS driver, foomatic data
generator) as a separate package, but that's unwieldly in its own
right.  As Roger noted, though, we're going to turn off the default-on
behavior for the Gimp plugin.

Sven wants us to remove the Gimp Print plugin entirely from
Gimp-print.  I'm not entirely certain how much I like that idea, at
least right now, but one option might be for us to distribute that
particular piece as a layered add-on rather than as part of the core

Mike Sweet has other ideas entirely about the plugin; I think that
he'd like to make it PPD-based, and the plugin wouldn't generate raw
printer output.  This would have a lot of advantages overall; we could
get rid of the Postscript driver in libgimpprint (which is of no use
whatsoever except for the Gimp plugin), it would make the Gimp play a
lot better with printing systems in general, and so forth.  Of course,
in that case the plugin really wouldn't be part of Gimp-print at all,
and we'd certainly remove it.  He can say more about that.

   At least, that's how it looks like at first sight, and unfortunately
   the way to solve this problem is not explained clearly in the INSTALL
   file of the GIMP.  I think that two solutions are possible:
   - build the GIMP first with --disable-print, install it, and then
     build and install gimp-print (later, the GIMP can be upgraded with
     --enable-print since libgimpprint will be found)
   - build gimp-print with the option --without-gimp, install it, and
     then build and install the GIMP (later, gimp-print can be upgraded
     --with-gimp since the GIMP will be found)

   This is a bit confusing.  In fact, I am wondering if it was really a
   good idea to remove the files from the GIMP distribution and to
   introduce an external dependency...  That's why I am posting this
   question here.

I see it the other way around: the problem is that we haven't managed
to completely separate the two.

   Unfortunately, even the procedure described above did not work too
   well with Solaris, probably because the latest version of gimp-print
   contains some Linuxisms that haven't been debugged yet (I will send a
   separate bug report to the gimp-print team later).  I started by
   configuring gimp-print 4.3.0 with the following options:

Please do report this bug!

   ./configure --prefix=/Local --without-cups --without-foomatic --without-ijs 

   Then I built it and installed it.  Then I tried to configure the GIMP
   again, hoping that it would now recognize libgimpprint.  But here is
   what I got:

   ./configure --prefix=/Local
   checking for gtkdoc-mkdb... false
   checking for sendmail... /usr/lib/sendmail
   checking for gimpprint-config... /Local/bin/gimpprint-config
   checking for gimpprint >= 4.2.0... /Local/bin/gimpprint-config: syntax error at 
line 27: `;' unexpected
   expr: syntax error
   configure: warning: 
   *** libgimpprint version  is too old.
   *** You need at least version 4.2.0.
   configure: error: 
   *** Check for libgimpprint failed. You can download it from 
   *** or you can build without it by passing 
   *** --disable-print to configure (but you won't be able to print then).

   There are two (probably trivial) problems: a syntax error in
   gimpprint-config (works with bash but not with the standard /bin/sh)
   and an incorrect diagnostic from the gimp's configure script.  These
   problems can probably be solved easily (I don't have the time to do
   that now but I will try next week) but it is a pity that the first
   impression of 1.2.4-pre1 on Solaris is not as positive as I was hoping
   for.  Building with --disable-print works, but it's a pity to loose
   support for printing.

   I would prefer to have some parts of gimp-print back into the main
   GIMP package.  This would not be the latest and greatest version and
   it may not support all printing systems, but at least it would work
   with that version of the GIMP and the users would always have the
   option to upgrade gimp-print separately.  I think that it would be
   better to have one package that provides the basic stuff including
   printing support without having circular dependencies between two
   packages (even if the workaround is easy).

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